Cannabis users 500% more like to develop schizophrenia than someone who has never smoked it, Increased Risk from Alcohol and Other illegal Drugs Also

I never drank til I was 18 1/2. Never smoked pot till I was 18. I get what you’re saying but it’s just not fair. I drank cuz I was unincluded. And I’m unincluded because I drank… Couldn’t seem to win. I’m just an outcast always have been always will be. cry. No one gives a ■■■■ about me outside maybe this board and my parents. I can socialize fine but people don’t give me much of an opportunity. I’m used to it by now.

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:X As an ex-substance user (i’m very glad i’m straight edge now and don’t do anything anymore). I find it very hard to find things to do that are fun/keeps me interested. :stuck_out_tongue: It’s like i’m trying to “fill a void” every weekend, its tough, but its better than doing drugs / drinking.

Amphetamines are the /least/ likely on that list? I call ■■■■■■■■, or a very poorly conducted study.

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and sadly - likely to become an even larger part of the culture. i would generally have no problem with legalization of marijuana - but when this type of study comes out - I realize its going to have horrible consequences.

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I can relate to that, I was only a social butterfly as long as I drank or did drugs. I had the dealers’ numbers, too, so I was a go-to-person to hang out with. That lead me to some pretty lousy relationships and friendships. Now I don’t care so much, I have a handful of friends, I don’t need to socialize every day, go out every weekend, etc. I’m okay with myself, and that’s what’s important.

@houseofstark yeah, I know what you mean. Finding pleasurable hobbies is tough, especially with anhedonia in the mix. I read a lot, it’s my coping mechanism :slight_smile:

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imo it can have devastating effects on a lot of people it can also be a gate way to harder drugs, its bad news all around…even people who take it are sometimes unaware of the long term side effects it has on their lifes,

people take it to try escape their realty

I guess Colorado and Oregon and all the rest of the medical marijuana states are going to be filled with schizophrenics? no sir, I don’t believe this study.

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I’m still thinking about this list. It would rank 20mg of Percocet above an 8-ball of blow. I can assure you, that’s ridiculous. I’d take their “likelihoods” with a MAJOR grain of salt. I wonder who funded this study. I’m gonna lmao if it was a tobacco company, would definitely make sense with those results.

Nvm alcohol would probably be lower if it was funded by Big Tobacco.

Maybe I should be playing the stock market, ■■■■.

Well, wish I would’ve known that at age 13. :frowning:
I can only advise the youth to wait until their tiny brains develop before trying medicinal cannabis (I still approve of cannabis for such things as ptsd, eating disorders, etc…, but I have grown to accept that it’s a life long trigger for those with latent or active sz).

Would this mean that women in countries where pregnant women smoke cannabis would have a higher population of sz’s? I am thinking of Jamaica, in particular, where it’s pretty frequent for women to use cannabis?

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I would’be never thought of that, awesome question.

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I mostly agree with the findings of this study, but these findings can be partially due to the probability that people who abuse cannabis regularly are less stable to begin with, and thus would be likely to be mentally ill without the cannabis. I also was a little surprised that people who used hallucinogens were less likely to develop schizophrenia than regular pot users. That could be partially due to the relative amounts of these drugs that are abused. A heavy pot smoker might abuse marijuana several times a day, while an abuser of hallucinogens is likely to abuse those drugs once or week. There was this guy in the town I grew up in who fried his brains on LSD. He’d walk around gazing at the sky. He was really spacey, but everyone knew he wasn’t likely to harm anyone. He was just weird.

As a heavy drinker I believe that alcohol played a role in the development of my schizophrenia.

My mother was not schizophrenic but was an alcoholic/problem drinker. She would get paranoid with the drink.

Alcohol has horrible consequences too. We legalized it not because it was harmless, but because it would be easier to control if it was legal. The same is true of marijuana.

Did you do pot because you were excluded ? Personally, if so,I would find that strange. For me it’s about peer pressure, and if you are socially excluded you don’t have that peer pressure to try your first cigarette or joint.
My brother had more of a social network(mine was non existent) and got into drugs in his late teens/early 20s.

Its based on 3.1 million hospital records and 20,000 people who developed schizophrenia. You can’t get much larger a study that is more statistically accurate.

You are in serious denial.

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I think its getting legalized because there is a general assumption of harmlessness, and because it will bring in a lot of tax revenue for the states.

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I asked my pdoc about whether my pot and acid abuse as a teen gave me schizophrenia and he explained that it probably ascerbated my schizophrenia but that I was going to get schizophrenia regardless of my drug use. those 20,000 people out of the 3.1 million would still have schizophrenia then anyways.?

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I’ve heard that too although in my case I’m fairly certain that had I not smoked so much pot I would still be healthy to this day. No one in my family has sz or sza and I am the only one who has smoked cannabis to the extreme and got this disorder.