Can you lose intelligence bcz of sz?

I feel like I lost 50% of my intelligence since having sz. I had lots A’s in university and school before sz. My grades went down after sz but I still got my degree.

I had 99% in organic chemistry final, 98% final grade. 96% final grade in calculus, 86% final grade in French etc I wanted to get in medschool.

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Whats your job? What do you do in life?

Well I just moved to a new apt, going to poke around with remote work.

Why don’t you work in advertisement or for supplements companies, you seem good at it.

I am gonna do a crypto thing. Ridiculous ROI. It is how I could afford this place also.

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I mean your way of talking about supplements sound like you’re trying to sell them. Maybe you can get such a job. Once I worked for a short time for a supplement company, I had to sell their products the way I want. I ended up using their products instead of selling them :joy:

I am not a very good seller but I am good with computers, maybe I should work with the Geek Squad at Best Buy again.

Yes, I believe you CAN lose intelligence due to sz but is seems most of your IQ loss is related to your first onset of the illness , if I remember correctly. I’m not sure whether or to believe that you continue to go downhill on meds.

I’m also still unsure whether or not to believe that continued episodes of psychosis cause brain damage . It’s hard to know who to believe.

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Maybe you can have different goals, with your intellectual abilities. Shoot I would have flunked out with all the classes that you took. lol lol lol but I am being serious at the same time.

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My new pdoc told me everytime you relapse your chance of recovery and functioning lvl decrease and meds may not work or you may need a higher dose. She said some meds are better but nothing will make me like I was before and reverse the sz damage.

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I hear a lot of back and forth on this issue. It’s hard to know which is the most current and correct theory. Some people that claim it does not cause brain damage could just be wishful thinking.

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I don’t know if it affected my intelligence but it affected my ability to function properly, like I would be focused on the hallucinations or anxiety attacks and miss what the professors were saying, one wrote on one of my papers to pay attention to what he was saying because I didn’t do it in the format he wanted…

I graduated high school as an Ontario Scholar with an A average but once I went to University I started having mental health problems and my grades tanked. Once I got on meds and was no longer psychotic I feel like my intelligence was as good as it ever was. But I do feel my memory has taken a small hit.

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Did you ever go to school while on meds?

Feels like it. My former psychiatrist said my IQ was estimated to be 110 a couple years after I first met her for schizophrenia. Like maybe when I first met her it was 120. I went to school and did poorly at a top school in a stem major while prodromal. I went from an easy Community College getting straight As and doing tons of extracurricular activies + socializing + going to the gym, and then dropping out at university a couple years later from a bad drug trip and schizophrenia. This was early to mid 2011.

It seems my mental health waxes and wanes sort of like a mood disorder than hasn’t been fixed or treated and I drink 10 low carb monsters a day + chain smoke so that’s like adding fuel to the fire…I haven’t made a real recovery.

The only thing that has improved is my thoughts, anxiety, panic attacks, and I have little to no dissociation or DP/DR anymore. I went from 2-3 fixed delusions, to dozens or even hundreds. I started looking into my past and my past lives (reincarnation + time travel + aliens + sim theory) and realized I had alien encounters and trillions of reincarnations into the same body + like immortality from mind uploading, consciousness transfer, and transhumanism in a past life. So I felt stuck in a simulation as an immortal being where I keep reincarnating and experiencing consciousness transfer.

I don’t want to go back to university because of fear of failing, dropping out, money, and just plain ol’ paranoia and delusions about my own safety and crap.

I think I’ll just be a low wage worker the rest of my life and keep it steady.

I thought I got abducted by aliens at least 10 times in the multiverse, but it could be hundreds, thousands, or even millions of times I was abducted by real and fake aliens.

I don’t think my IQ was ever above like 133 (psychic intuition through dreams), but I’ve time traveled and been to other universes and was a montauk boy and time traveler a billion times over via grey aliens and crap.

I wish my IQ was like 160-180 but it’s not. Maybe as a kid it was or in my life time traveling through parallel universes, because I worked on alien spaceships (engineer), delusions I invented bitcoin in a past life/different universe, and had tons of jobs like programming, physicist, mathematician, engineer, etc. I don’t know.

Maybe it was just aliens, Illuminati, and Deep State people, but I think and believe I was a victim of cloning, monarch mind control, and montauk project as well as Super Soldier crap and SSP (Secret Space Program).

I feel like I’m in a fixed time loop or trapped. I thought I was John titor and invented a time machine and crap too. I don’t know.

I’ve been poor in all my lives, mentally ill, and had zero money or anything. I suffer all the time in every life.

I once had a doctor tell me Topamax decreases IQ in studies by 1-2 points. I’ve been on all kinds of meds and different meds – perhaps too many. I’ve been accused of doctor shopping. I hate it. I just want to get better, man.

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I was never super intelligent but that’s because I spent so much time in my head overthinking and over analyzing things that were of no real benefit but seemed way important at the time. After the first episode I was unable to read well for awhile but my friend gave me something to read every night until I got “better” … I started school again last year and my grades are a lot better now than they were before… I think it is because I am more focused and less in my head and more determined to become something. I do have trouble remembering simple things but I no longer zone out…

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Thats my goal now, I don’t want any more degrees or medschool. I don’t mind working at minimum wage.

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Hey, that’s awesome man. Congrats!

:heart:

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No I didn’t go to school while on meds, after I stabilized I decided not to go back to school. I was on a really high dose of olanzapine at the time 40mg and it knocked me on my ass, I just slept a lot and had no energy to do anything.

What I did was write my CompTIA certifications because they are just tests you can take without having to take any classes. After I got my certifications I just freelanced a little as a computer technician, volunteer type stuff helping people out and gaining experience. About 6 years ago, after I lowered my olanzapine dose and had more energy I started making money from it. I eventually switched to Lurasidone and now I work a lot more.

If I do decide to go back I have about a year left to get my degree. I’ve thought about it but I like working with computers (and my part time job as a delivery driver) and my degree was in Biology. i don’t feel like becoming a biologist now so maybe I’ll go back when I’m older, one of those people who get their degrees after they retire, something to do if my mind is coherent enough to do it.

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I can’t really read long texts since sz but I managed to finish university while on Abilify (5 semesters on Abilify). My reading sucks though my trick to memorize things with sz cognitive symptoms was to take lots of notes in class, while reading books, etc I even had to copy several times sentences from the book to be able to memorize. I didn’t need to do any of that before sz, I just read fast once and took little notes. I felt stupid studying much more and getting lower grades since having sz.

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