Biggest Bullsh it Ever (poll)

Biggest Bullsh it Ever…

Schizophrenia is just a chemical imbalance in the brain

  • true
  • false
  • maybe
  • frankly my dear i don’t give a damn

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Nobody really knows, there seam to be a lot of factors that each contribute. the fact ap’s work is evidence for the dopamine hypothesis and there are some postmortem studies that show signs of increased dopamine activity in sz patients but these are confounded by the effects of ap meds.

yes it’s a chemical imbalance but it is caused by the brain itself. they are studying post mortem brains of schizophrenics…I saw the closet where all of them were kept.

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I said false

The meds are a sledgehammer

Meds are by no means just an imbalance bc if that were the case then we’d all be cured right?

Maybe? I’ve also heard that it might be genetic.

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I’m not too sure of the root cause either. I think there are theories, but they are still working on obtaining proof. Brain studies and postmortem studies are still revealing new information. Hopefully they’ll have an answer soon.

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it’s what we have. I’m pretty sure dopamine antagonists work for most folk so there’s that…

Saying that. Why is there difference among our community? Why do some do better and some not so much?..I’m pretty sure we’re dealing with the same beast. I’m amazed how similar across communities our symptoms are…but why these differences…

Then there’s 1% give or take. Why, with all the associated rubbish we deal with these days do only that slight percentage get what we get?..Yes. Dopamine plays a role but the cause to me is a protein problem on a smaller level.

I wish I believed my problem was physical, but I believe it’s spiritual. I believe the meds work for me because the entity is obeying them.

@anon10648258 yeah that is true, but there is not one piece of dna that switches sz on and off

@rogueone i hear what you are saying, there are similarities with symptoms but from what i have always been told about the brain there is more at play here than just a simple imbalance,

@Musicdance it is something i think about a lot but its not something i can talk about here openly unfortunately, this forum does not entertain spiritual cause for this illness as they say it can trigger people.

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I seem to be making myself really unpopular with how I see it on the forum lately. But I am just describing to you how I overcome the illness, and I am not going to pretty it up for you and tell you meds saved me because that is not what happened. I stopped hearing voices when I stopped believing you could communicate with people in your head. After about 6 months I stopped hearing voices and after about 4 or 5 years my insight, negative symptoms, ruminating and other problems all went away too. I imagine my head was full of dopamine at the time, I mean who wouldnt in the middle of such a terrifying experience, but to me it was not the other way around where if your head is flooded with dopamine you will start hallucinating, because that is just not the way I see it. :frowning: You guys might hate me for saying that, but that is exactly what happened to me and exactly how I experienced recovery. All the meds in the world would not have made a difference if I didnt get rid of that key delusion.

Edit: I am not saying meds dont help by the way. If your head is flooded with dopamine you are going to be extremely stressed out, and meds could alleviate that. I am just saying I dont think dopamine is the reason we hallucinate.

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Once when I was about to take meds the voice made an “agreement” (that’s the word it used) - I take the meds and they will shut up for a few hours. And indeed, immediately after taking the meds the voice disappeared for a while. Not sure why it did it, maybe to make fun of me taking the meds every time even though they don’t work.
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That was the only time the meds had any effect on my symptoms.

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In Chinese culture there are evil spirits too and my grandma said there was some demon out to get revenge on us on my dad’s side of the family, which is why there’s some history of mental illness there. My Filipino friend says it’s a problem of inheritance. Someone’s mom might’ve been forced to make serious mistakes so their children have to follow suit. No one is above inheritance. We all have traits, skills, knowledge, inner demons, health problems, unpaid debts, sins, and weaknesses that need to be addressed.

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I started to say “maybe” but then realized that I didn’t give a damn. When the voices broke through my Latuda after being quiet for a while it was almost as they did it at will or the people in power gave me placebos to control my behavior. I have often been called a “lower” by my voices which I have seen as being in the seat of power in my head and possibly society. When I see how the SSI system is not really designed to lift me up socially unless I say I don’t need the meds I wonder if I simply not designated to fail. I also notice that when I miss a dose or two the withdrawal symptoms are a pain and can even possibly turn out to be fatal in the case of some of my meds. I also am kept awake by the voices without the meds which is intolerable. So even when I get the desire to quit I don’t bother. to. That along with the near 100% certainty of a slide in fatal diabetes and early death makes me feel like they want me gone as soon as possible. I even read that the drug they initially gave me when I first had problems functioning had a blackbox warning saying “don’t give to schizophrenics”. So I wonder If I was not forced to end up this way, was poorly treated after I became ill, and will die young because the system doesn’t give a damn. So why should I?

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I was the opposite haha the reason i changed my answer was bc i dont like people pretending it is something it is not, a bit like sugar coating sz, maybe its bc i have experienced it and i know it is more than that

My voices used to become quiet whenever I made the plan to take meds, even if I wasn’t on meds at the time. If I was on meds, they started up again when I decided I wanted to go off the meds, but they did this before I went off the meds.

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