the correct information
the symptoms of schizophrenia is everything that can be observed or watched directly
by the eyes of external observers,or prove its existence through the means of lab
meaning that,what regard to the mental activities outputs including the ideas,beliefs,the content
of the ideas,the subjects that be addressed by ideas,the language activity,linguistic expressions,
behavioral activities,behaving with oneself or with the individuals of the community…etc
add for that any changes in the biochemistry of brain or nervous system
all these things must be classified as the symptoms of schizophrenia,all of them are the
end products of sz activities,they are the results of sz
what can be diagnosed IS what can be treated
while the things that so-called the hallucinations are not a symptoms of schizophrenia,
because you can not diagnoses the hallucinations in any schizophrenic individual
SIMPLY: all external observers can not hear the voices,can not see the imaginary people,and
can not touch theses things,and can not diagnoses them through any lab means
the question for who is think he is smart:
why you can not treatment the hallucinations ?
let me see your answer
Its useless for me to keep on arguing with a deeply stubborn symptomatic person who is not taking meds.
So I can hold on to what is left of my own sanity, Im waving the white flag - Geesh
I hear people talk about it, but I never really think about recovery. I’m gradually getting ‘better’ as the years go by. I’m who I am and have been this way for a long time. I have my own slow trajectory.
I know that my mental health has improved since I started staying away from people and stressful situations.
if the ontological case of sz is not a disease in its essential nature
and the medical drug have not any effectiveness on the ontological case
thus, use of words treatment,cure/ recovery are become not binding
we must use a word adaptation instead of a words cure / recovery
=the adaptation with the worst conditions that has been produced by action of sz "what so-called the symptoms of Sz "
-the medical adaptation in the onset of sz occurrence and the behavioral adaptation …etc
Recovery is the point where your main symptoms subside and you get to reflect how incredibly ■■■■ your life actually is - without the paralysis of intense fear and imminent doom.
Its called recovery. Really its just the space between the more intense SZ symptoms.
I would say that symptomatic recovery and social recovery are not necessarily inclusive.
By that i mean that there may still be adverse social effects after symptoms have gone
recovery is a case that is supposed to occur by effect of special treatment on a case of disease
= recovery is a recovery without exceptions
-should not formulate a special concept to the word “recovery” to fits the negative results
that occur after the treatment of sz case,because it is an attempt to create an imaginary
excuses for doctors to justify their failure in treatment all aspects of schizophrenia
-the recovery is the result which reveals the validity of the used treatment
Well I thought I had recovered because I understand the illness and know what I must do to keep it in check. However I have no job, am attending school part-tine, and have few social contacts. So I guess by that definition I have not recovered.
we see that,each writer talking about the recovery issue from his specific perspective
-thus,we must have a theoretical model stimulates the essential nature of sz
-we must research about special event like the sz scenarios
here some examples:
-if an aggressive country occupy lands of your country
if the virus/bacteria occupy your body
what is the concept of word recovery in both cases ?
{this example like sz event}
the genetic disease,like the insulin and diabetes
corruption in the policy of one of the ministries led to the reduced of amount of basic products
led to import from aboard
here we see different conception of word recovery !
-gunshot settled in someone’s body
if the recovery is the way to tailoring wound and give painkiller
or the recovery depend on the bullet extracted from the body
{this example like Sz event}
political and economic crises result of the wrong policies with neighboring countries
-the individual have wrong personal policy toward him self ,and toward members of his family,friends,relatives,neighbors and society in general and vice versa
what is the concept of word recovery in this case ?
young man may be exposed to an incident,loses the ability to move,thus loses the ability to have a job
-the mind is the main means to cope with all living conditions
-when an individual loses control over mental processes “after the onset of sz for long time”
loses by extension the ability to adapt or solve the daily problems faced by the individual
-it is natural that the schizophrenic lose the chance to have a job,the state play the main role
to help the schizophrenic individuals in this case
=lose the job is the result of sz effectiveness and is not a result of inappropriate treatment
For me, I don’t think “recovery” is a word to even shoot for. I just prefer to be as stable as possible. The condition is certainly different with everyone though.
I think recovery is just mantal balance and stability, where youre not being in a state of harassment with voices but rather able to live in harmony with them.
Recovery is managing well with the illness and not getting overwhelmed with the positive symptoms and ending back in the hospital. We all want to NOT be in the psych ward getting security to hold us down and stick a needle in our ass. Been there, done that.
Part of it, is, making new goals for your life, and trying to achieve them bit by bit. They may not be as ambitious but you know what, there is nothing stopping us from trying to be Great! Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys had SZ and look at him, there is a long list of high achievers that had SZ.
I try to keep that in mind when I deal with the negative symptoms like lack of motivation. Ugh, its tough. I have made a change in my diet, since I gained a lot of weight after being put on antipsychotic medication. I lost 7 pounds this last month. I am happy about that, had a nice salad for lunch with kale, avocado and almonds. For snacking I eat dates, and unsalted trailmix.
It is all about making choices.
And avoiding marijuana, that stuff is terrible.
I learned that the hard way.
I feel that I am partly recovered as I can work and socialize but I still spend a fair amount of time on the couch. I wish I could put that time to better use.
But without the meds I would be back to suicidal and delusional. It’s amazing that I am like 2 pills away from craziness. but that’s how it is. at least I can earn an income even if it isn’t much more than disability.
I have a love hate relationship with work. I find that when I am off for 2 days in a row I don’t want to leave the house sometimes. I am better off working a little each day with 1 day off. Because all I do is lay around and sleep. Not good.
I’m right there too… Sometimes my sneaky brained thinking want’s to kick in and say…
“Look how good your doing. You don’t need these two little pills. It’s all the power of your mind that is keeping you going.”
But no, it’s not. It’s the meds. Two little pills makes all the difference in the world. I’m glad they work, but that sort of makes me sad at the same time.
The only criterion to believe that the schizophrenia is a case of disease {according to the scientific
methods of science},is the ability to the medical drugs to inhibition the phonetic source once and for all,
a condition that there is no occurrence of any aspect of the defect in the anatomical structure and chemistry of the brain
-all patterns of symptoms will be disappear at once
-the audible voices is the main cause of the disorder in all psychic-mental functions
-any idea talking about the recovery from sz without give any attention to the voices
is a mythological idea
I realize this is an old topic, but I’ve always seen recovery as more of a journey than a destination. If, every day, you are moving forward, learning new things, and striving to make positive changes in the world around you, to leave it in better shape at the end of the day than you found it at the beginning, that’s recovery.
The details don’t matter so much, just that you’re moving forward on that journey.
