I know this will sound like a cliche, but I believe we all have different gifts. I don’t necessarily believe testing can always show that.
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Almost a century of intelligence test development has shown that the most valid and accurate results are obtained when tests meet minimal psychometric standards, as outlined in this chapter, for use in high-stakes decision making like SSA disability determination. The tests should demonstrate adequate floors, item gradients, reliability, validity, norm table sensitivity, population representation, as well as sufficient convincing evidence of fairness and lack of bias
Wouldn’t have helped in my case. My IQ wasn’t lower than my family’s average. But I didn’t have good people skills, which it seems would have seemed more worrisome by common sense.
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actually they do offer ‘modified intelligence testing’ in some places these days, on a standard IQ test I scored a 125, on the modified I was in the 170s…
funny thing is I don’t FEEL like a genius…I tend to feel pretty stupid really…I mean so what if I can play tetris for 16 hours straight without losing? so what if I can memorize anatomy and put a dissected animal back together from memory without having been there for the dissection…and who fricken cares if I can program a VCR/DVD/BluRay without reading the manual?
Actually none of those were in the test they are just things I have done in the past…the actual testing proved me to be ‘superior/highly advanced’ in problem solving and reading skills…but I scored abysmally in math and ‘timed reaction’…according to the test results my best occupation would be one that requires little mathematic ability and higher levels of puzzle solving type skills…like the one I have now!
oh dremulf, you made big things, I am astonished right now… one friend of mine told me that she knows that people who got schizophrenia are either very intelligent either very sensibles. today when I read you and with my dumb scores of iq I feel stupid, I guess its a bad day…or not
People here are hedging their bets. Those with good test scores don’t want to be thought of as different from others. We SHOULD NOT parade about saying we are smarter than others. This is a value in American society. We are all supposed to be equal. It’s embarrassing to think you are smarter than the average person. It makes you look like a freak. For instance, I don’t want to post my IQ score here because it might hurt someone here with average or below average intelligence.
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I agree with Martin. In fact I agree when others said IQ is not a sign of intelligence.
I will not post my IQ also, I made some dumb decisions in my life. 
I loved those tests before I got ill. I got very high scores but after I became ill I don’t have access to that part of the brain. It is slowly coming back now. My logical thinking. I’ve been on high dose AP since 2010. I believe you have to love the test to ace it. But it just shows your logic ability. Not the rest. I got very low scores, around 75, on other things. Like understanding vocal information. I need to do to learn. If I hear it, it just vanishes in my brain. Also my attention span was that of a squirrel. The psychologist who tested me said if my attention span was to be counted in to the equation I would be considered retarded. I got severe ADHD diagnose about 6 years before I got my first psychosis.
yes, I see… me too I had various results. I am nervous in fact and this doesn’t simplify the thing… strange things happens in life apparently 
Nothing in life is simple. 
I wonder with psychosis/schizophrenia whether it is always a case of lowered intelligence or more a case of an inability to fully use that intelligence in what are practical/real life situations.
It is well known in the case of schizophrenia that performance IQ often lags behind verbal IQ.
Verbal IQ is usually the best indicator on how you will do on an IQ test but it’s performance IQ that better measures how you will do when it comes to practical,real life situations ie occupationally.
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I know I’ve taken a cognitive hit from when I was younger (this was apparent even in my late twenties and thirties), but not sure how much to blame on SZ and how much to blame on weed. Short-term memory and some organizational skills are still shot to hell – I rely heavily on my phone and Google Calendar to work around those. Problems that I could work out quickly in my head take longer now. I still have to plan ahead for social situations.
The truth is that I am smarter than some, but less intelligent than others. I am definitely more intelligent than the first hospital roomie I had two weeks ago. Gawd. I was trying to read and she had to comment about what a waste of time she found reading to be in her very limited vocabulary.
My understanding is that American society views equality as in, ‘equality of opportunity’, not ‘equality of outcome’. There are people who are now trying to re-interpret that as everyone having ‘equality of outcome’, particularly in financial areas, but that’s not going to fly. People aren’t equal in terms of ability. I’m not Arnold Schwarzenegger or Lance Armstrong physically. I’m not Stephen Hawking mentally. That being said, I’m still being allowed to haul dangerous goods for a living and I’m grateful the system allows me that opportunity rather than just sticking a ‘useless’ label on me because of my DX.
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Same problem here especially with the organisational/planning skills . That comes under executive functioning. I remember sz admin posting about an online cognitive assessment(long since stopped) back in 2007 (I think) I scored fine on most things but on EF scored roughly 1.5 standard deviations below average.
In my case I can’t blame it on weed as I have never taken it. In my case I am not sure how much the issue with EF is psychiatrically related or how much it is to do with an, as yet, undiagnosed learning difficulty(NVLD?)
With such a large discrepancy that might point to one test underestimating and the other test overestimating . That might be very relevant if you have a large VIQ- NON VIQ/NON VIQ- VIQ gap and the tests had markedly different ratios of types of question asked.
The standard IQ tests are pretty accurate for what they’re trying to measure. It takes years of work to standardize a WAIS IQ test. It most likely did not underestimate, but the other test might have measured something completely different. It should be said though that for high reliability and accuracy many kinds of tasks are not included in the WAIS. That’s part of the reason why the WAIS is a good test.
you realize thats for like certified god damned geniuses… it don’t matter if you don’t make the cut… seriously… top 2% minds… that’s all they one…
for what purpose though?
they’re ■■■■■■■ pricks (probably literally)
I took the test then found out had to pay -.-
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I think mensa is an organization of insufferable jerks.
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You could just google around until you found a free one.
I only know a few people from MENSA – they seem okay. One has to be careful with generalizations. All people with SZ are serial killers, right?
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