- I believe they have no effect
- I believe that they enhance negatives
- I believe that they are solely responsible for negatives
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I still have pretty significant negatives without my crazy pills, but some of the meds defintely have a multiplier effect. (@#$% you, Haldol!)
Whers 4th option partially?
Oh enhance you mean worsens?
Yes, Aziz, enhance means worsens.
Edit: I should note the exact meaning of enhance so I don’t confuse your english.
Enhance:
“intensify, increase, or further improve the quality, value, or extent of.”
In this case it means to worsen though @Aziz .
The atypical AP’s don’t worsen the negatives for me. The typicals sure do. I was practically comatose when I was on them.
I have PRN Haldol 5mg. All it does for me is flattens me out. Reminds me of Stelazine kinda.
It’s hard for me to tell if meds worsens negatives because i have used them for such a long time
On Invega i was emotionless and I had pretty intense negatives also i had no motivation, changed to my new AP and i have literally zero negative symotoms. IMO it depends from person to person and how that person reacts to meds, drowsiness is a big no no for motivation
Yes! I can’t believe all these people saying how wonderful the typicals are, especially Haldol. I’ve never talked to anyone in person who said that.
Invega makes my negatives worse. That’s at least my experience. The less dopamine in the brain the worse the negatives.
Yes! They use Haldol to torture mental patients in Russia.
I do agree with you crimby that the waste majority of people get some negative side effects on typicals. But you must admit that there is a minority of folks who can’t function on the second Gen antipsychotics alone.
I’d like to see more information before I made a call like that, but for the time being I will concede. There are probably people who can’t function on atypical ap’s alone.
Okay, I will agree that some people cannot function without typical ap’s, but the typicals should only be given out as an absolute last resort because of the stultifying effect they have on the people who have to take them. They say that the typicals work because they make the patient lay in bed as much as possible. Granted, they aren’t causing any problems, but they aren’t really functioning. When I was on Haldol I used to lay in bed 20 hours a day, daydreaming about easy ways to commit suicide. I have never been so demoralized.
when I was younger it did,
but then I changed.
wish I could change back.
ha.
I’m on an injection of invega trinza 819mg every three months and I’m not sure it’s making my negative symptoms worse but I do believe that the invega injection has helped with the positive symptoms. It would be a trade off for me that I welcome.
Crimby like Seroquel and Geodon as well. They are realy good. But if you just take a tiny dose of Clopixol 500 mg every 3 weeks than that really doesn’t hit that hard.
Yeah i fall in camp of people who think the negatives are caused by the antipsychotics. I feel this way cause after a year of getting off antipsychotics i no longer have negative symptoms. But after a while my voices return. So thats why im on meds
I am sure it worsens negative. Note that APs diminish dopamine levels on the entire brain and sznics already have low dopamine in the mesocorticol dopamine pathway in the brain. APs reduce dopamine there much further. the mesocortical dopamine pathway has to do with cognition, memory, and emotions.