Thats how you know it’s really bad, when you say “it’s not the worst.”
Shitty people are constantly saying “im not hitler”, but see, that doesn’t mean anything at all.
And if you are walking around saying what horrible things didn’t happen your life just sucks.
People are really hard on eachother, not good at all.
I’ve never seen myself as a selfish person. My friends used to tell me that I’m always helpful. But since my first episode I have become withdrawn and do not do as much for others as I use to. The negative symptoms of sz holds me back from being free and helpful. I guess some people might see me as selfish but my friends who have known me from before I got ill knows that I’m very caring, giving and helpful.
Unmedicated I’d put my illness way up there. Medicated I’d move it down some notches. Am I selfish? I don’t let other people into my world. However I don’t let myself in either. That’s where the pain is for me.
What does self absorbed exactly mean? I get called that on a weekly basis. 
Narcissistic?
I~m not sure if self-absorbed is the right word.
I know that my son seems that way to some people. really,it takes 3 times the amount of concentration for him to figure out his schedule every day. how to get to the store. make his appts. Do all of this and try to keep himself together around other people. I think it should be called–just trying to get through the day…
I’ve been pondering this too much.
If you mean that there are certain society norms that we will never fit into because of this illness, I completely agree.
If you mean mental illness gives people a golden ticket to do bad stuff I disagree.
I may never come off as polite or caring as others in my family. I know I have a temper issue to keep working on and fighting back. I know there are certain rules in polite society that I can’t live up to. So in that way morality and illness don’t mix. I agree.
My younger brother finding out he’s got Borderline personality disorder with a comorbid diagnosis of bipolar and using that as an excuse to cheat on his wife and physically abuse his young children because mental illness and morality don’t mix, I very much disagree.
I mean by societal norms. Also religion and mental illnesses in particular dont mix very well- delusions that are OK by other people…
@mortimermouse
People have been mentioning religion around me a lot. I have no beef with God, but his representation here on earth makes me cringe… I just found this one again… Hope you get a smile from it.
It’s called “Why can’t I own a Canadian”… it’s longer then this, there are more biblical examples that don’t apply in todays world.
http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html
“Dear Dr. Laura:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your devoted fan,
I am NOT against god or the church, I just have met too many over zealous church goers who hold a bible in one hand and beat up the homeless with the other. This is not supposed to be any poke at the bible, but rather a poke at the people who quote the bible all the time and then refuse to offer any kindness to fellow humans.
how do you mean? In my experience years ago religion caused a remission in me, but now it is difficult to practise because of my sz after my relapse two years ago. But I still find that sz reminds me of my need for God
I mean people like Joan of Arc head the voice of God and lead a bloody rebellion, there was a mass suicide led by a schizophrenic cult leader a few decades ago (I learned this in school), ect.
Hearing voices and thinking that they’re holy is bad. Thinking that one has the power of god on ones side and can do anything is delusional. It’s not a beef with religion, it’s a problem with our vulnerability to brainwash.
Catholicism is not healthy for a schizophrenic, I can tell you that. “Jesus is watching you masturbate” was what they told me when I hit puberty.
Jesus had gotten bored with watching me fornicate with boys and girls and masturbate, LOL
He turned his attention to other people, he already knows I am a little atheist mouse who is half gay (Im bisexual)
I’m not sure that comparing someone (past or present) who is experiencing a full psychotic break with mental illness or morality or anything else for that matter, is a good approach. Not everyone who has a mental illness is psychotic 24/7 and/or losses all sense of morality. I don’t think religion is the same as morality or humanity.
I think when I looked it up I found that 3% are born with “physical” disabilities. Is that bad or good? Perhaps it’s just a number. Someone with cancer can stop fighting or keep fighting. Someone with a MI can stop fighting or keep fighting. My son has psychosis and my daughter has scoliosis that could have made her a paraplegic (still can). I have almost lost both of them. How or why wouldn’t lessen the impact of their lose. I have gotten the same help/compassion from family and friends in both instances.
Humans can be selfish, self-centered and self-absorbed. We can also be loving, sympathetic, empathetic, compassionate and so much more.
http://www.healthcarebusinesstech.com/the-12-most-debilitating-diseases/
I found this one on the 12 most debilitating diseases.
Schizophrenia ranks 11. Dementia 1.
I’m waiting for the day that people remember that the brain is an organ too.
I would imagine that the moral profile of schizophrenics doesn’t vary too much from the moral profile of so called normal people, once you factor in the debilitating aspects of our disease. I doubt if you would find any correlation between moral traits like altruism and selfishness, and schizophrenia.
I agree with this. I think some people are more selfish than other just in general and not to do with disorders and diseases at all. I would think for a sz person I am not a selfish person. There have been a lot of times I’ve put myself last so I wouldn’t be selfish. Those ones also landed me in hospital so not smart to always put others before you. But I think it’s a good example of how disease and personality traits don’t have anything to do with each other.
I just said the same about myself. It lands us in hospital. It’s never healthy to put yourself last especially when we need help and care too. Just like every other person. I had a friend once who told me selfishness is seen as a negative but everyone should care about themselves.