Today I began opioid maintenance program. (Buprenorphine as an antidepressant to treatment resistant depression.)

I was told I should meet up to my appointment at the rehab center today with as many withdrawals as possible.

I stopped taking opium friday. Saturday was hell, i had so bad withdrawals, feeling ice cold, running nose, pains and an electric buzz through my body.

The following night I was soaked in sweat, had cramps, nightmares and awful withdrawals.

I woke up sunday feeling even worse and then, like I had no control over myself, I began taking opium in large doses and ended up tremendously high.

Today i felt guilty and stupid and showed up at the rehab center with no withdrawals (cause of the opium last night) I was met by the kindest people and a careful, sympathetic doctor.

She and the nurses gave me buprenorphine (a kind of opiate like methadone) over two hours until I reached my dosis. It didn’t give me a high, I just felt normal, happy, and in contact with myself again. They said I probably have to take it for the rest of my life, and i’m okay with that.

There is a lot of research out there where buprenorphine have been used to treatment resistant depression with very good results, and there are two antidepressants on the way which are designed like buprenorphine

The Efficacy of Buprenorphine in Major Depression, Treatment-Resistant Depression and Suicidal Behavior: A Systematic Review - PubMed (nih.gov)

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That is awsome @bluebutterfly !! I know from watching several friends, just how difficult withdrawl can be. Thank God they have a gentle way of dealing with this for you

kindest people and a careful, sympathetic doctor.

That’s what the world needs more of

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Thanks @Cragger

Sometimes you are just lucky and end up in a place where the staff like to be and do a good job. Even the other patients there, a lot of street addicts, hobos and junkies, seemed to like being there.

I know it’s the first day on this new medicine, so I can’t be sure. But it seems both to stop the craving for drugs (i have got a lot of opium in my house but don’t feel any urge for taking it) and it seems to kill the sadness / depression that made me abuse opium.

I really, really hope it continues like that.

@NotSeksoEmpirico once wrote to me “You have got a terrific life ahead of you.”

Ha, im happy just to have a life in general ahead of me now, just a normal messy life with its ups and downs.

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I’m so glad it’s working for you. And a messy life, with ups and downs is the best we can all hope for. Cheers to you, my friend

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Just wanted to say good luck and best wishes

Naltrexone always worked for me

Hopefully your treatment is just as successful as mine!!

Good luck!!

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Thanks @Jonnybegood i guess the naltrexone stops your cravings? But does it do anything besides that?

The drug im taking is called “Suboxone” and besides containing buprenorphine it’s got naloxone in it, almost the same as naltrexone

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Naltrexone has improved my mental health in every way

It blocks cravings, it makes me sick if I do relapse. Easy to get back on track. Also it’s an anti-psychosis, anti-anxiety, anti-depression and anti -porn addiction, pro-good habit forming, pro-cognitive thinking

Albeit can’t guarantee the same for you.

It’s literally a miracle in a pill for me. When all else fails, raise the naltrexone. Doubt it’ll fail again. Incredibly safe med too. Unbelievable.

I call it God in a pill. But that’s just me :rofl:

It Doesn’t just stop with taking naltrexone. 6 years later I improve every day on it

Haters would be mad if they knew how much this helps me and will continue to.

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Great, good you found your drug, when i was offered suboxone i was a bit skeptical exactly because it contains naltrexone, but after your review of the drug, im more relaxed about it.

And if i should be so stupid ever to take another opiate, it simply blocks the effect.
Its an opioid-antagonist.

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I was more an alcoholic but I was dabbling with opioids before I started it. The thought has not crossed my mind since. Although did have some obsessive thinking about it before. Non stop all day. Had just got out of rehab and everyone was a heroin addict. Raving about the great benefits. Almost got me hooked. Naltrexone saved me in the nick of time.

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I once had a kidney stone and they gave me an opiate to help with my pain but it didn’t do anything to help the pain and I didn’t want more for addiction reasons. I never had opium withdrawals but I wish you all the best @bluebutterfly I’ve had withdrawals from several other types of drugs.

When I was withdrawing from venlafaxine (An antidepressant) I had brain zaps and body zaps (electric buzz feeling as you describe it) and it was intense, so I think I know what you are going through. I also had hot and cold flashes. I experienced 3 months of brutal wihdrawals and spent A LOT of time in the shower (Several times a day for hours on end). For some reason it was the only bit of relief I could get. When I got hot I would put on cooler water, when I got cold I would put on hotter water. The feeling of the water spraying against my body also helped alleviate the body zaps I was experiencing.

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Thanks a lot @Headspark

I know exactly what you have experienced with Venlafaxine. I had the same withdrawals too when I weaned off venlafaxine. Opiate withdrawals are brutal, but relatively short. Venlafaxine withdrawals are horrible because it takes so long before the brain zapz ends.

Among psychiatrists it’s not called withdrawals when you wean off venlafaxine but “serotonine discontinuation syndrome” and that’s a ■■■■■■■■ word, because it is withdrawals, and i would prefer opioid withdrawals compared to venlafaxine ditto.

I once had a splendid pdoc. A professor, and an alcoholic too. He admitted that “serotonine discontinuation syndrome” is just another word for withdrawals.

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I had a similar experience weaning off Venlafaxine. I was on the maximum dose, 375 mg. It took me eight years to get off it, but I am hypersensitive to medication

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Congratulations! Welcome to your new world, lol. I’m glad you’re doing so good.

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Thanks so much @Leaf - yes it is exactly like entering a new world

I really, really hope and think that this new medication keeps working, especially the antidepressive effect

(i have got a history of “tachyphylaxis” - which means that a drug that used to work suddenly lose its effectiveness)

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He was right. Serotonin discontinuation syndrome sounds like something cooked up by the pharmaceutical industry. In fact I remain completely addicted to sertraline and I remember experiencing brain zaps when trying to withdraw.

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Good luck and wishing you the best, @bluebutterfly :dizzy:

Thanks @Schztuna

I’m so confused, tired, chaotic, but not sad. The last three days have been very strange.

Sunday I relapsed, got tremendously high on opium, felt bad about it and had a kind of mental breakdown. I couldn’t sleep, I was so high that I saw “pictures” and “movie clips” floating in front of my closed eyes whenever I tried to sleep. I only had three hours of bad sleep.

Monday I showed up at the rehab center feeling tired, sad and guilty because of my relapse, still slightly high. I had suboxone for the first time, and the sadness and cravings disappeared, but i could neither sleep that night because of “pictures” and inner “movies”

Today i woke up feeling the same old sadness and had some withdrawals. When I came to the rehab center, they slightly increased the dose. I felt a little “high” to begin with, but now i just feel normal and very tired, but the sadness and the withdrawals are gone.

Gosh, I hope things will stabilize soon. There are a lot of things I would like to do in my “new life”", travel, have a sheltered job, exercise etc.

I can’t wait.

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