A team of scientists from across the globe have shown that the brains of patients with schizophrenia have the capacity to reorganize and fight the illness. This is the first time that imaging data has been used to show that our brains may have the ability to reverse the effects of schizophrenia.
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That’s interesting
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Did you change your name? It just looks different to me lol.
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Yay. Go schzprnic ppl lol
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I suspect this is only possible whilst the bulk of the illness is held at bay by medication.
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What is interesting is that, before antipsychotics were introduced, at least 20 to 33 percent people recovered fully over time. So, you never know. Because the brain adjusts to the medications, perhaps it may lose its ability to heal itself with medication.
It is really not possible for me to say right now how brain plasticity responds to medications.
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Yes, it is a different name.
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Where did you get that from? The stat and reference i mean. I wasnt aware they even collected data on sz patients before antipsychotics
Well, there must be a lot of data, because I remember going through a video with a doctor claiming that, that used to happen. And, his point was that we are far better off now with medications due to remission rates. However, I don’t remember where I saw it.
But, there is plenty of information on full recoveries online, if you ever search for it.
I dont buy the stuff online about full recoveries. Doesnt add up to me. They always say they recovered but then when you go searching for their life after recovery - the info is practically nonexistent. Almost as if they never did recover. Just thought they did. Much like the forums community of patients who return after ages realising they wont fully recover
Edit. Im included. I used to think recovery was possible
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But, you have to consider that, people who do recover are always lost to research, as well. That is because they start living their lives rather than being research subjects. If you recovered fully, and had nothing to do with schizophrenia, why would you want to do anything with this dreaded illness? You would look forward, right, have a family, make a living, and move on. Plenty of such people are lost to research…in fact one in five people, who have a schizophrenia break, recover fully, and sometime in the future, they tell their kids, that they had a break during their life, and then moved on.
Nash is a known example of someone who recovered fully.
By the way, I take medications, and I may take them for the rest of my life.
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Im not bashing you dw. Im just saying it how i feel it is.
Nash is an example of someone who claims you can will yourself out of sz, and i honestly dont think its possible without meds controlling the bulk of your symptoms.
Nash is known to have been a very poor teacher of maths despite being fully recovered. He would show psychotic symptoms as a lecturer. One of his students’s students mentions it on quora.
Imo, nash didnt recover, he just experienced good remission due to a low stress of living. (He won the nobel economics prize and could afford to live stress free) thats my opinion on him
But yeah, definitely have hope in the brains ability to compensate
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But, Nash wasn’t on medication, he didn’t have positive symptoms later in life, and certainly didn’t have cognitive symptoms as he researched Mathematics. That was before he willed his illness away, that he was roaming around the campus schizophrenic.
If some people do get better, even without medications, there is hope for us! So, we should perhaps look at it positively?
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Thats what im saying. I disagree. His symptoms were still there. He was a bad researcher after his prime. Theres videos of him talking about his stuff. Most of the time, he would joke that he cant remember mathematics at all
Like i say. Theres evidence of this online
Edit. Positivity is good and perfect but false hope isnt
Ok, consider this research: Sustaining full recovery in schizophrenia after 15 years: does resilience matter? - PubMed (nih.gov)
Without being offensive, I would like to point that your experience is anecdotal, and there is no way you have had access to enough data to have made the right conclusion in this regard.
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I know about that research. They are medicated, thats the point im trying to make 
Edit. Ive look at it again, this is different from what i was aware of **
No, they aren’t medicated! The ones who have fully recovered have not taken a medication i the last 17 years, it is written there.
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I guess my issue is that i have to take medication for life, so i find it hard to believe that its possible to even recover.
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Yeah, me too.
When I look at the clues, at first I had many psychotic episodes. Secondly, I am on two medications. I have also been on Clozapine in the past. So, unlikely, I can ever stop taking medications. However, who knows, 20 years down the line, it is perhaps possible.
Lastly, I have refractory cognitive symptoms and I have never heard anyone recovering from cognitives, I have asked that question several times on this forum, but no-one says that they had severe cognitives and they recovered from them.
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Anne-Kari Torgalsbøen (the person who wrote the study) … they arent a psychiatrist, shes a psychologist. I’d take that research with a pinch of salt tbh
Her benchmark for recovery would be very different from a psychiatrists
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