Psychiatrist are such trained and study that they distinguish Sz.
I always have discomfort from SZ. What matters is if I can function.
Iâm not taking the piss when I say this, but if schizophrenia and mental health in general is subjective, then how did they figure out how to create medications that treat them? There has to be some level of objective treatment and science in regard to mental health.
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I hope they find a cure for diabetes.
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It was by serendipity. Chlorpromazine was originally being developed as an antihistamine and was found to have a calming effect on patients. Then two French psychiatrists used it on their patients with psychosis and noticed that it also had a calming effect on their symptoms.
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There are several if they catch it at onset. At least for Type 1.
There should be a biological test. You donât have hallucinations unless chemicals are at abnormal levels.
Funny. If I cant function at all because Im taking meds and have little to no symptoms, how did I buy and fix up a house, am working a part time job and am getting married?
I guess I shouldnt be doing those things since I cant function on meds. I guess I should rethink my life.
Maybe I should go back to being afraid of being murdered in my sleep and reborn until I run out of âlivesâ in the simulation. Or sleeping on park benches in the middle of winter because I was afraid to sleep at home.
I guess youâre right, I was much more functional off meds 
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I was completely immobilized by risperidone. Controlled my positives fine but I was bed ridden on it. Itâs totally possible someone could have this kind of reaction to every medication thatâs available right now, especially considering the fact that all these drugs work in very similar ways. In fact I can think of a person on this site who very regularly complains about how awful antipsychotics make them feel. In there case it may be that they just havenât found the right one yet but again its not just possible, itâs a fact that for some people every medication we have right now will make them feel that way. I donât understand why itâs so popular on this site to minimize or invalidate other peopleâs experiences.
In regards to the original point @Maccaroni was making, there are measurable and objective tests we have for the illness but 99% of that is in the lab or administered incredibly infrequently. I mean yeah you can get a test done that approximates where you stand cognitively but how often do we do that for patients? Once, twice in a lifetime? You can prick your finger and measure your sugar levels 50 times a day if you want. What can you do for schizophrenia that gives you an objective assessment of where youâre at in any domain on a daily basis? Nothing. @Maccaroni in see where your coming from.
Read my response in context to the conversation.
He wasnt referring to just himself. He was saying that medicine is a medical straight jacket.
The fact is this guy is a sz denier and a med basher. I see no reason why I should sit by and not at minimum show a little sarcasm, when , although I would prefer to not be on meds, it has given me and many others, their lives and sanity back.
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I didnât realize this
I agree with @Maccaroni that there is no single objective test to diagnose schizophrenia:
[No, there isnât a single objective test to diagnose schizophrenia. Diagnosis relies on a comprehensive evaluation by a mental health professional, often using diagnostic checklists and criteria from the DSM-5-TR or ICD-10, that consider symptoms, medical history, and ruling out other conditions. While lab tests and brain imaging can help rule out other causes, they donât definitively diagnose schizophrenia. ] AI Overview
That doesnât mean that schizophrenia doesnât exist, or that itâs purely psychological, it just means that there is no single objective test to diagnose schizophrenia.
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You ever seen a miracle on 34th street? Well, in that movie he used the US mail as an example to prove he was Santa Clause.
I will use a similar method. The US government recognizes that I have sz enough to both pay me for it and restrict me from buying firearms.
They are convinced enough of the methods used to be willing to take away a constitutional right based on these methods.
If that isnt proof enough, I dont know what is.
I have to pick up fiance in a few so dont know if Ill have time to view any responses.
They torchered me till i admitted to have schizophrenia. I went through this hell for over 35 years. It was plainly religious. I am not a Christian.
So the Christians were so invested in you admitting that you had schizophrenia that they spent 35 years torturing you to get you to confess. Got it.
Iâm sorry for whatever you went through. I have been forcibly medicated before if thats what your referring too. Its not fun. And I still hold a little resentment for the nurse in question to be honest.
But honestly, to me, your story sounds like exaggeration. I could be wrong.
What country do you live in?
Why did they want you to admit you have schizophrenia so as to invest so much of their time?
Measuring pain in a hospital is subjective based on self report. Therefore, pain doesnât exist.
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Getting addicted to Vicodin over something that doesnât exist just adds insult to the injury.
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