I struggle with the recovery concept as it seems to mean different things to different people . Also from a personal perspective it is not somewhere I have got near to over the course of 40 odd years. I think with the right help and support,especially in the early years of being ill(that is crucial) chances of making substantial progress are greatly enhanced irrespective of whether a state of “recovery” is achieved.
I question whether recovery is on a practical/realistic level ultimately achievable for all but helping people to progress as far as they can is imminently preferable to the lowest common denominator/“you’re schizophrenic and you will never get much better” attitude that was prevalent in the 70s and 80s.
I agree with you here.
I can`t speak for my son, but to me, it seems recovery means being happy and satisfied with however he chooses or is able to live with himself and be content with that.
There is no question though that support in as many forms as possible can only benefit. Too many people do not get that.
it is good to be positive but ’ recovery ’ is a little ’ out ’ there…
’ improvement ’ is more realistic for me anyway.
take care 
Yeah I accepted that it was permanent. It’s been two years. I started getting depressed angry, mildly suicidal. I felt lost.
Gotta have the mentality that you can recover.
Now I’m actually having a good day. Seeing signs that it might let up.
I would agree with a ‘state of improvement’ over a more finite ‘recovery’. I think most people can improve to some extent and so long as you are heading in the right direction(bumps in the road and occasional diversions included) then that is a positive.
Recovery = Improvement
There’s always room for improvement.
When you hear me beaking off about being ‘recovery-centric’, what I really mean is that I encourage everyone to try and make today better than yesterday, some way, somehow. That’s all.
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