Poll: why do we think we have sz?

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why do we have sz?

  • random occurrence
  • genetic trait
  • psychological damage
  • enviromental disturbances
  • God
  • parents/gaurdians
  • other
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All of the above.- When will you lot that write the polls start adding that option?

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I agree, all of those.

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i would say it was psychological damage that started it for me, irrational thoughts creeped in and started tearing down my defences, maybe if my faith was stronger at that time my defences would have been strong enough to fight it off and maybe i would never have gotten the irrational thoughts in the first place.

p.s. sorry about the choices, i think i should have added more like stress and society etc or bullying. sometimes i can’t think of every option at the time thats why i put other as a choice.

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i would say cuz i completely lost my marbles several times with 0 amount of insight.

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Other - or some of these. Yet to be determined -

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Genetic , enviromental and psychological. Arbitrarily , and if i was to guess id say; 60-25-15 . Surprising the vast majority of people think its psychological. To me thats weigh off ,

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society…

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Why isnt THE DEVIL/SATAN and evil spirits on the list. ???

I would say all the above can contribute EXCEPT God, and you have to add Devil as being a contributor also.

Unless you’re blaming God for making the devil or allowing the devil to afflict but that’s a whole 'nother topic.

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if i was really clever i might have put sin on the list but i am not so, sorry.

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I still say it’s a genetic trait. I believe mine was because I was born too early and the chemicals in my brain hadn’t fully developed. But it is also known to run in families, my parents may not be affected, but there is signs in the family past that indicate there is history, it may not have been diagnosed back in the early days but stories have confirmed it.

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Well, the scientist keep coming up with theories, they say it’s hereditary, they love to blame our families, and now they can scan our brain to see it’s different and produces a lot of dopamine. So they believe it’s important to block all our dopamine and give us meds to do it. Our schizophrenic brains find a way to work around the meds to keep producing dopamine. We love our dopamine.

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Darn, I forgot one ! But realistically sin could go along with the devil since the devil is the tempter…
CHOICES are also necessary to sin, so personal choices might be a better term here?

I think the genetic is one of least causes. I know you can inherit your parents or ancestors genes, and even some of their dispositions, but from there an individual can develop themselves. Unless there is an outright brain development problem as you stated, a person can be born to SZ parents and be fine, or, a person can be born to non SZ parents with no known ancestors with Sz and still develop symptoms of SZ.

People just need to learn how to cope with excess dopamine. Lets not forget the Pineal gland that works with dopamine as well as DMT, known as the spirit molecule. An active P-gland can certainly allow one to have visions. DMT in plants has been used to open the spirit portals for centuries…

This link shows the positive side of having an active P-gland, and how to cleanse it so it actually allows one to enter other dimensions. This view takes the position of seeing visions as a naturally caused occurance, one that should be learned about and handled appropriately.

http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/how-to-clean-up-pineal-gland.html

The problem with society today is they blame everything on mental illnesses, when in the past things like visions and voices would have usually been considered gifts and the person experiencing them were trained to work with them, which included natural methods to deal with any negative experiences.

Today doctors in the materialist world oppose these things that were considered normal by many for thousands of years and instead pump drugs into people that block dopamine production, or inhibit the Pineal, or otherwise affect the brain so it is operating in a non natural way.

there are plenty of natural remedies and practices that could solve a lot of the SZ issues if they were only applied. I’m not saying this would go for everyone, since there can be many causes, but at least some would benefit from the natural methods.

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Although I wouldn’t call them sins, I do think some personal choices of mine have contributed - these might fall under environmental disturbances, since we are an influence on our environment. So for instance some degree of antisociality before the onset is debated to the extend to which it is a cause or an effect, but I want to identify with my prodromal behavior - else I don’t know what to identify with anymore. Hence I cannot but take some responsibility as well.

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I agree with this and will give an example. I made the choice to get drunk and high at parties as a teenager till my early 20s. I also listened to hard core rock and metal music. While I still listen to rock I do not listen to some of the stuff i used to that had very dark and violent themes.
I have witnessed many people including myself being high and/or drunk and listening to some fast heavy music with evil and violent words. people started smashing glass bottles singing the words to the songs. Their dancing became violent (and this was before the days of mosh pits) people banged their heads into walls and pulled their own hair, and sometimes fights broke out over this behavior. I’ve seen people completely freak out and get thrown out of parties, or taken to jail for destroying some property. On occasion I heard of people going to the mental hospital.
All these things came about by the choices made to get high and listen to provocative music that seemed to have the energy to provoke people to a state of frenzy and madness.
And, none of these people would act like that in their regular daily lives.
I also believe an over exposure to such environments can condition the brain to start having SZ type symptoms, as the things involved led to what appeared to be a temporary psychosis.

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In my case I believe the psychological damage may in part be due to being coerced into treatment, but also due to poor childhood coping skills. While genes may play a part in who might develop it sooner, it’s the attitudes and your environment that controls the possibility. I had a terribly dysfunctional life, I was very poetic and somewhat autistic those combined with repeated stressors that I couldn’t stop or control caused me to cave in. The stress of how I was treated in the hospital and the 40 hours of isolation for refusing medication, the abuse and assault from people supposed to be helping me…they basically caused me to start having psychosis. Then I got a label of schizophrenia. But I was in too much shock for me to have a real perspective on it. So schizophrenia is just this ghost…schizophrenia, the ghost of possibilities.