My friend at the ER says they nickname that a B52, after the plane. They combine Benadryl with the ativan and haldol. The combination works almost immediately to calm the patient down for several hours.
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Haldo is one of the strongest oldest apâs. I went from going one on nine with the nurses and security guards to blowing bubbles in about ten minutes time. Also, There is a correlation of getting a high dose of haldo in the beginning stages and improved recovery.
Is there any cases where it doesnât work? I have no experience myself
Yes. I am one of them. I went to the hospital after 7 days of no sleep, they tried everything on me, and only managed to get me to sleep for 4 hours after 5 different meds.
If I was very agitated, the Hadol and Ativan didnât work. Usually led to 12+ hours in restraints.
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I smashed and destroyed the hospital phone on the floor. They gave me pills that made me sleep. I donât know what they are, probably sedatives.
Also two security guards surrounded me but I took the pills instead of resisting.
When they chained me to the table I distinctly remember thinking how barbaric it seemed. They restrained me because I was getting excited because they werenât listening to me.
I was just trying to explain something and 4 burly orderlies surrounded me and led me to the isolation room. I was surprised.
I was in restraints once. Twice in the same day. Piracetam overdose and a violent meltdown. Well, violent as I could be with screwed up elbows. I gave someone a bruise.
I never got violent. But one time they put me in solitary and I moved all the furniture around and blocked the doorway. So they took all of it away. Iâm really must be passive aggressive.
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Advice:::~ If an Actual Authority Member Asks You to Do Something. Donât Question. Say âYes Sirâ, or 'Yes Maâam". And Do it.
I Was Strapped to 4 Beds.
Choked By a Police Officer.
And Tazed.
All Because I Didnât Want to Take My Medâs. (Now in My Defense I Thought I Had a Good Reason).
In The End. After What Iâve Been Through. What I Lost. What I Gained. And What I Know Now.
I Could Have Ended up Without All of The Pain, Tears, And Suffering.
I Was Not Very Trusting to Those in Uniforms And Being Sent to Facility After Facility.
All Because I Wasnât Born With Pills in My Stomach. (It Didnât Seem Right or Make Sense).
To Be Given Medications Seemed Illogical And Problematic to My Personal Belief System.
But The Medical Community Didnât Care About That.
They Actually, (Now Get Thus), Actually Cared About My Safety.
In The End, I Trust Actual Authorities And Those in Charge of My Case.
Try The Best You Can, Because The Best You Can is Good Enough. (Radiohead).
I was manic on one hospital stay and violent. I had insight and knew I was getting out of control. They gave me options to be restrained, isolated, or take a âcocktailâ of meds.
I chose the meds, chemical restraint. Slept all night and part of the next day.
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Physical restraints such as straps are illegal in U.K. hospitals (although I think police can handcuff folk in hospital)
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I was put in 4 point restraints for aboutâŚ24 hours? I cut my wrist, they stitched it, i was picking the stitches. I wasnt aggressive.
I was handcuffed because i didnt want to go in a police car. They wanted to take me in because i sat quietly on a bench in a station for a whole day and didnt talk or move. I didnt harm myself or others. Just sat. 
I was put in isolation and force drugged many times. Rarely because i was suicidal, often for bizar reasons like praying quietly in a corner of the ward or peacefully climbing on a chair to look at the trees. I wasnt aggressive. Mostly just weird, which people apparently find frightening.
I think there is an overuse and a lack of communicationâŚthey never explained or checked whether their violence hurt or scared me.
I think the repeat offenders, criminals, and violent people should be put in prison; especially those with criminal records. Maybe if they are legitimately sick (first timers), restraints, cocktail, or the quiet room. I donât support it at all (restraints), but itâs not fair to the rest of the patients to feel their lives are in danger because of a certain few. Life ainât fair. I donât want to put up with them either. A lot of clowns in the hospital â good and bad ones. A lot of people want attention and act out. A lot of fakers that donât want to go to prison end up at the hospital for no good reason just to be let out or to avoid prison.
Iâm still traumatized from 2015-2016 from my frequent stays. I â â â â â â up too but was never ever violent or threatening. I donât think Iâll ever recover especially because I think these people got a slap on the wrist and are still waking free in society. Crime is way out of control. Iâm never going to pander to these people.
I did what I was told and took my meds and was a good olâ boy.
Like I said, after I read Elyn Saks biography and read about treatments and stuff people with schizophrenia and other severe mentally ill people faced like abuse and discrimination, Iâm not really for it at all. I just donât think itâs fair or right for us normal people to be abused, yelled at, hear people yelling and screaming, and intimidating the other staff and patients. It goes both ways.
Back in 2016, I got 5250âd. I was attacked by several low altitude flying saucers that attacked my brain with AI or psychotronics or some â â â â â â â â . Whether it was aliens or military, I donât know. Probably aliens. I started threatening my family, which wasnât typical of me because of the alien close encounter or possibly semi-alien abduction. Itâs not fair to me but it probably was a good thing I had a 15 day stay. I was good and did my time and everything was great. I was in the secure unit and felt safe. I was honestly scared with the whole thing and going to the public hospital and stuff. But the police were really nice and respectful to me. You could tell they had training. Maybe I was fortunate or lucky. I hope to never experience such things again. Maybe I was off meds too because it was after my NMS and ICU thing and the doctors told me to stay off meds for a while. I ended up back on them. It was the perfect storm: no meds and alien encounter, unfortunately. Nobody believes me but I know what I saw.
I take full responsibility for what I said and my actions, but I do felt it was a result of fear and being scared and â â â â .
Thank you.
Only been restrained twice, once upon forced admission to hospital, and one time trying to escape, injected with instant sleepy time juice both times. I think itâs necessary even though itâs traumatic.
I think my parents advocated for me. I was extremely lucky and fortunate. I was indeed scared, but it turned out all right. I thank God. It was a one time thing. They probably knew I was sick because I said my real dad wasnât my dad and I was hispanic lol.
Many times people were very violent in my ward, physically or sexually, and staff did literally nothing. I have found that real scary too. In such cases restraints can be necessary to protect others.
You can also overdo things thoughâŚ4 point restraints for picking at stitches or isolation for a quiet prayer felt like aggression too.
There was also a news item in my country where they showed a mentally disabled teen who had literally been chained to a wall in a tiny, dark isolation room for three years because staff was scared of him. His mum eventually went to the press with video recordings. Then the boy was released to another institution, and there was a lot of discussion. They quickly got him so much better that they filmed him taking walks in the sun and happily chatting. This kind of restraint imho is medieval.
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I donât think so, especially when it is not needed.