Magic mushrooms for schizophrenia? I dont know how to do links but its latest news
Iām not exactly sure this is mainstream news?
Also, the study is being conducted by one āProfessor Nuttā. No, really! You canāt make this stuff up, folks.
He has also been fired from a previous job for outlandish statements:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/30/drugs-adviser-david-nutt-sacked
I wouldnāt put too much hope into this.
Pixel.
Yeh im taking it with a pinch of salt. I mean magic mushrooms would surely worson schizophrenia? But if it does work ill be amazed
This was a topic of discussion earlier. Is this what you are referring to?
WTF this is just ridiculous - I think that this is criminal
Among all substances that can be experienced, it makes no sense to experience a hallucinogen. We know that hallucinogens activate receptors 5HT2a and causing symptoms similar to those of schizophrenia (positive as well as negative). Are interesting research on healthy subjects, indicating that can change the personality of the people and making them more open (under certain circumstances), but to study it to treat schizophrenia is madness.
In my opinion there is an interesting thing that should be resolved regarding the 5HT2a receptor, and I hope that sooner or later comes to mind to some researchers (maybe some researcher goes from here you never know). The 5HT2a receptor is a special, because it seems to down-regulate depending on the substance, regardless of whether it is an antagonist or agonist (or inverse agonist), or better, you can not know how it will behave the receptor until the substance will associated with it.
I found it very, very curious fact. Reading studies about the gene encoding this receptor I read (as is obvious) that those who have many receptors 5HT2a is easier than might suffer from schizophrenia, but contrary to what I thought, that same gene, one that leads more easily schizophrenia, It leads people to have more memory! It is very strange, because in fact the other genes that I know to be involved in schizophrenia are also implicated in poorer cognitive skills (in fact one of the symptoms of schizophrenia have cognitive disorders). This should be investigated, because although we know that to treat schizophrenia, we have to use an antagonist, we must also take into account the effect of chronic antagonism, but we do not know what is best at this point, we need to increase or decrease the number of receptors ? The answer ādecreaseā is not obvious. Also you should check which of the drugs currently on the market increase and which decrease the number of receptors 5HT2a.
In any case the use of 5HT2a agonists deil is folly, an agonist of these receptors increases the number of D2 receptors, increases the dyskinesia etc.
I think they are inducing the psychoactive state in subjects and then trying to counteract the effects with some drug they cooked up.
The shrooms themselves would never be the cure.
@notmoses this was the research I was talking about.
I can confirmā¦Magic mushrooms do not help schizophrenia. Low dose Ayahuasca on the other handā¦there should be research done on that on the treatment of all mental illnesses with Ayahuasca.
Nice to see you around dude. @turningthepage
Thanks life has just been real good that Iāve felt not much reason to come on here.
That great man.
Things o going well on my end as well. I still spend way to much time on here though. Iāve forsaken having a real life as the hallucinations just wind me up. At home here everything is at a minimum. Iām actually learning to think normally again.
Glad things are going well for you too.
Iāve been in a real good moodā¦and substance abuse is limitedā¦anxiety way down. No girls in my life (good thing maybe).
Been working a lot with my family and getting ready to go back to school. Got a haircut. Idk I canāt complain. Symptoms have been minimal. Reading books a lot and writing too and hiking. Not much social life other than my neighbor and my family but I like it that way.
Yeah man minimalism helps one relax. Iāve cut my caffeine down to an odd mountain dew every couple of days. Been smoking quite a bit today, but the last couple days before that I had a lot of control.
Iāve given up on finding a girl for now. The pursuit just led to stress and disappointment. I do browse dating websites still. I mean might as well. It turns out there are a few cute like minded girls in this town. Iāll probably never meet them, but itās comforting to know.
I canāt say Iāve been in a good mood, but itās been well over a week since Iāve had a depressive swing. That was on day two of starting this isolated lifestyle. Faced a bunch of ā ā ā ā , had to enact acceptance and come to peace with things. Itās been smooth since then. The mind get closer to where I want to be every day. Takes a lot of patience though to just sit inside all day.
Unfortunately, itās not difficult to take issue with from the standpoint of useful and/or lasting effects. There are all manner of exogenous substances that can be introduced into the brain that will produce ārelief.ā (Heroin and oxycontin come into my mind immediately. And we =could= use them as āmajor tranqsā because they will work. But will you like the sfx?)
Before I will mess with my own neuroplasticity, I will dig into the sfx profile. And psil has a lengthy one.
Okay, is no one going to talk about the fact that all these articles make certain that they tell you that ānuttā was āsackedā I mean, that is just fantastic.
Itās not like Iām going to take shrooms.
He was sacked for challenging government drug policy rather than necessarily for incompetence. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/oct/30/david-nutt-drugs-adviser-sacked
Has no one on this forum heard the term nutsack? Is this a foreign concept?
I followed it @samples32 didnāt want to get between you and moses