All things are in balance. When you harm someone, it will come back to you in some way. It may not always manifest in the way you think, but it will come back in some form. We are the lens through which we must see the world and if you are mean and cold you’ll see the world as a mean and cold place. Ultimately it’s your own peace that you disturb. It’s (almost) always a choice between fear and love. So be nice. It makes your world a nice place to be 
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I don’t believe in karma.
Life plays out randomly.
There is no making the world a nice place to be.
Have you been out there?
It’s a ■■■■■■■ mess.
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It’s hard to believe in karma when so many bad people get away with atrocious behavior because others are too weak to govern them, and hold them accountable the way they do the rest of us.
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I made this post because they locked the last thread and this was a response to something you said. You create your world through your actions. Projection and perception, action and reaction. I live in a beautiful place. If you don’t that’s because of how you see the world or what you’re resting your awareness on. There will always be some bad and some good, but that’s life. By choosing between fear and love, I choose to focus on the loving things in the world and that creates a nice world to live in. You don’t have to, but my reality is just as real as yours, only our perspectives are different because of what we both allow ourselves to experience. Good vibes out, good vibes in. Bad vibes out, bad vibes in. Do bad to others, bad things happen to you at some point, and if they don’t you think the world is a bad place. The world is a beautiful place, but that’s because I trust the goodness of both it and myself. Like I said, we are the lens through which we must see the world. It all comes back around. Even if the negative things we do don’t effect us materially, they inform our perspective and we will project and then perceive that negativity in the world around us.
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That’s a really great, yet super naive vision you have.
I wish I believed it.
However, I’ve seen no evidence of karma in my life.
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Did you project where you were born too? Lol
You could just as easily been born in a prison camp.
If you were born in an affluent place then congrats you won the world location lottery 
Its good to ponder this way of thinking.
Karma is a concept to make u feel better when someone wrongs you and also when some good fortune comes to you.
Its a feel good way of thinking.
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No I’ve seen enough to know the equation always balances itself out in some way.
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But why were you born in a good place? What did you do?
I was born in the slums of mississippi
Hm. I wonder what people starving to death in poverty have to save about that. Most are born into that and have no way to get out.
Karma is a fun thing to accuse when people get what they deserve, but good people end up having bad things happen more often than bad people getting their just desserts.
5 teens just died in a house fire near me. Wonder what they did to deserve that.
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Well america is much more afluent. Access to welfare, disability, proper healthcare etc… If you were born in the slums of somalia that maybe is not good
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If there is one thing I’ve learned in recovery it’s that logic is the answer. Logic is based on cause and effect. Cause + cause = effect. There is a giant ass equals sign at the end of this equation. The equation is always balanced. I’m going to go enjoy my walk. You guys have fun
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that involves moral, sense of justice. karma or whatever you may call it. i call it the first law of the universe. the nature of your thoughts which may turn into words which may turn into action will hit you back. you can test it if you want. go out in the street and offend a homeless person. go back to your house. wait for it to hit you back. i’ve tested the law. i got served everytime. the clash: ‘i fought the law and the law won’
Poetic justice is a thing but there really is no way the universe balances out moral/immoral acts as in karma. But poetic justice occurs I believe mainly through the mechanism of people making judgements, choices, decisions etc. Someone who decides to do something wrong likely is making errors in judgement that will eventually have negative consequences. There could be other things at play but I think it is simply through that which virtue is rewarded and badness is punished.
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I haven’t believed in karma since my EMT school days. Second night in clinical rotations and I mostly saw good people suffering.
Even after my short stint in the EMT world I’ve seen “karma” at work. I don’t believe a baby did something to deserve being born addicted to heroin and dealing with detox. The sound of a detoxing baby pretty much eliminates any thought of karmic justice. A baby crying through withdrawal is by far the most heartbreaking sound I have ever heard.
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Karma has another way to see it.
Goodness is the reward for being good.
Evilness is the punishment for being evil.
That’s enough
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And another point.
I prefer to trust sages and philosophers
of the antiquity, rather than smartasses on a forum.
Trust and you’ll see for yourself.
Nothing is a secret.
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Interesting conversation. I guess it’s hard to prove either way. I didn’t like my voices punishing me for my misdeeds. He acts like I committed an unforgivable sin! I’m not so aware of it anymore, the voice, that is. Neither one of us is real but there is truth about our situation.
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Life just is. Plenty of other people have had their say on it. Way smarter than me but if you think there’s some sort of cosmic balance your out of your mind in my book.
There’s no cosmic way to explain why some things go some ways or other. If there was then being kind would reward you materialistically…well perhaps I’m being too harsh but you might want a reward cosmically or metaphysically…
It just isn’t going to happen anytime soon to anyone. Just live. Take what you see and respond…that is life!
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