Is schizophrenia a disease of the mind or the soul?

I will go with SZ being a disorder of the brain. I have chemical issues in my brain. Meds help. Maybe someday they will have a definitive cause and cure.

Psychosis was named to be discriminate of nevrosis : there is an increasing gravity continuum between both of them. I think psyche designates mind more than soul.

Schizophrenia is a spectrum very much alike psychotic disorders on their whole with various extensions in other minor troubles like nevrosis or phobias which may also have multiple causing hypothesis : genetics, environment, patient’ history, etc

ok, mind disorder but tbh my soul literally hurts sometimes… sorry for the intrusion :confused: .

()The End Has No End ()

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" curious how in her smile I find evidence of the soul , something I have yet to find in any of the religious texts. " - Me (OR) Me

(long time ago) … ,

Which jus Means as of Rite Now , You Can’t Really Touch tha Soul , Perhaps tha Closest we Can Get is and Are Our Dreams (???) ,

Perhaps Our Connections to Nature , Our Souls Speaking in Lower and Higher Volumes … ,

Our ā€œintrusiveā€ Thots Perhaps … ,

Deja-vu Perhaps , Our Souls Speaking to us within thus Division of Mynde Body and Soul … ,

Disease is a Strong Word , and jus Because Some Peoples (like doctors and scientists) Don’t Understand it , , , they Want to Erase it Completely … ,

My Voices Aren’t Going Anywhere … ,

but Plenty of tha Rest Has Been Taken , (OR) More so The Rest is Patiently Waiting for their T(Y)me to Speak … ,

e(Y)e will Lissen as Always and Agree (OR) Disagree , , ,

but No Matter What Science Has to Say … ,

e(Y)e Do Have a Soul … ,

and Schizophrenia is Naught a Disease .

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What if a person with DID (multiple personality disorder) has one of his/her personality/identity suffers from schizophrenia?

In this case, personality disorder is a disease of the (??) while mental disorder is a disease of the mind.

  • There is a lot of contradictory definitions of soul / spirit / heart / mind / body, depending on the person’s belief.
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Neither. Schizophrenia is a biological brain disorder. Access to healthcare increases chances of recovery because of access to affordable medicine which treats the illness. I used to think it was something that I could overcome through effort or mindfulness. I simply cannot overcome it alone. I have tried so many times. Also, schizophrenia is not a personality disorder but it can cause someone to lose touch with themselves.

disease of the mind

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I believe you either get the best genetics chosen for you based on what happened in your previous life or it’s just bad luck you get some mental disorder. Maybe everyone goes through this over many lifetimes.

The word ā€˜soul’ to the ancient Greeks meant more mind/personality rather than anything spiritual. So to me its a brain disease. Like how any disease has its symptoms , this affects the mind as the brain is responsible for all our perceptions,beliefs etc. . In my view it dosent affect my personality or who I am. Just because I need medication doesn’t affect how much I love strawberry ice cream or a certain genre of music or this underrated movie etc.

I like your metal gear avatar NobleSix

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I used to think sz was preparing me for heaven or something by putting me through trials and tribulations that made me a stronger, better, more ā€œperfectā€ person. Now I’m just glad my meds are adjusted the right ways I can enjoy life and don’t worry about that anymore.

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I once had a pretty intense psychedelic experience, psilocybe cubensis. I believe I experienced what some people call an ā€œego deathā€ but of course with such intense subjective experiences in such uncharted waters, it’s impossible to really know for sure if you’ve experienced the same thing as others based on the limitations of words.

But still, what I experienced is that I lost everything (temporarily) that would answer a question like, ā€œWho are you?ā€ I lost my name, my appearance, my memories, all the details of my life. My emotions separated from me, my body separated away, my thoughts separated away. Probably compartmentalized, in psychological jargon.

I was still there, though. Whatever is ā€œmeā€ was still there, I mean, even with all of the details stripped away. I had a very distinct sense of existing or ā€œbeingā€ despite the loss of all those details. Or all the ā€œtrappingsā€ of my mortal life experience, past and present.

And I found that it was flawless, like a flawless ā€˜state’ of existing. But as the trip started winding down, various aspects returned to me. Including my thoughts/thinking, or my awareness of them (however one wants to look at it), and it was like a form of communication (going both ways) that had all sorts of blips, dead ends and contradictions. The familiarity of it all came back, how mentally approaching life and the world around me comes with some confusion, oddities, and is overall a pretty messy thing.

So the experience left me with the impression/perception of being separate from my thoughts. whereas before I didn’t really have that awareness, it felt more like… I am my thoughts but without even having that conscious notion, it was just an inherent assumption, I guess. But after that experience my perception was (and remains) that my thoughts are a product/function of my brain which is an organ in my body that serves its purpose just like my heart, lungs or liver.

And so I am rather convinced that things like ā€œmental illnessā€ including psychotic disorders are just things going haywire in the brain organ.