If I don’t put a stop to this I think I’ll have a stroke. Both my grandma’s had it. I can eat like four five days of food In one day its so depressing and makes me feel hopeless and today I discovered that I can’t run anymore due to abilify etc. I love running it makes me feel happy!!!
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If I don’t get my sugar addiction under control, I will likely end up with diabetes. Like, I know I shouldn’t, but I want sugar so badly… Today I’ve had cream soda and like 8 white chocolate recees hearts. I don’t know how to stop. Like I seriously need help.
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I feel like i can’t live without sugar so Ive decided that I’ll allow myself to add coconut sugar in my l passata along with other seasoning… And a natural ish marmalade in my porridge with cashew nuts
But still today when I walked past a place that sells donuts… It set me off on a binge spree… Maybe can u see someone who deals with food via ur gp?
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Yeah. I’m headed straight to the grave with my eating but it almost seems like an addiction is something I’ve got to have as part of this illness in order to cope. So my addiction is food along with a dependency on a lot of pills.
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I understand food is a coping mechanism. I will see if I can get out of it I just keep trying again and again. 30 bmi is my time to get more serious. I think I’ll have to settle for a bigger bmi but just not thirty please
Yeah, I should probably discuss it with my mom and then we could see about getting me some help. Do you think you will see someone too? I think we are addicted to food and I know that it’s dangerous, especially on these meds.
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Maybe you can adapt to the McDougall diet? You can eat unlimited starches and sugars on it and still lose weight, while controlling your blood sugar, but you have to limit fat and protein to the minimum, 10% of the calories.
What causes diabetes risk isn’t sugars themselves, it’s the fat that blocks muscles from utilizing those sugars properly. When they’re blocked from uptake, your blood sugar goes up, and insulin resistance happens. Searching “Intramyocellular lipids and insulin resistance” may give you more info on the issue.
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I am seeing a therapist about it next week.
I think it’s worth a shot right.
I’ve heard a symptom with diabetes is feeling weak or tired I don’t really want more of that lol.
Plus I know someone who had to have a liver transplant due to a fatty liver and they’ve had many complications and medications.
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Look, I’ve been on Abilify and Zyprexa – clinically shown to cause diabetes. Plus, it runs in my family. My A1C is 4.8 (that’s a good number) because I actually work at it. I diet. I count calories. I exercise. Am I at the weight I want to be right now? No, but I’m 2 pounds away from it. It took a year to get me here, but I got it.
I used to blame my meds for my weight and my lack of fitness until I started hanging around fitness nuts. Then, I realized my lack of fitness was my own darn fault – but if I worked at it, I could be just as fit as they are.
I saw a quote today: If you want a hard life, go for the easy, fast and free. If you want an easy life, go for the hard, slow, and costly.
Eating addictions are hard. All addictions are hard. But it’s not your meds that are overfeeding you. It’s you. And I’m sorry to say that. But there is a way out. That’s up to you.
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That may be a good way to lose weight, but that’s not all that’s at stake, especially on antipsychotics. Diabetes, heart disease, cancer, dementia… these things are real risks, so while a diet based around sugar and carbs could promote weight loss, it is nowhere near being good for you.
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It is actually the healthiest diet, that society has thrived on for thousands of years. Rice, potatoes, bread, those are staples that people have relied on since we stopped being hunter-gatherers. They are good sources of calories, while being very filling. They don’t deserve to be vilified the way they are, due to a misunderstanding of what causes diabetes.
She doesn’t have to go wild on the table sugar, though.
Thanks naturallycured I like that I do agree too much animal food is not suitable for me and I do eat three portions of fresh fruit and am careful not to restrict my starches too much as long as their whole sources…
It’s just those dam binges that I’d like to conquer lol.
Yes I remember something about visceral fat being correlated with insulin too… I think it’s similar to I intramyocellular lipids.
Wish I could exercise more hard core too thou that helps insulin sensitivity and weight as well apparently but hei maybe in the future.
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No, the meds aren’t technically overfeeding us, but that doesn’t mean that they have some part to play. Before I was on antipsychotics, I ate even more sugar and carbs than I do now, and even without exercise, I was steadily losing weight. I ate the exact same way once I started antipsychotics, and I began to gain weight. So no, the APs are not the only things that contribute to weight, but they do contribute, and ignoring that is not justified.
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It takes about three days of a low-fat diet to fully deplete the intramyocellular lipids. If you commit to that, your physiology changes and you get more energy from what you eat. I have yet to get there, I keep sneaking in some margarine or chips, but I’ve still lost about 14 pounds on the McDougall diet over a month and a half.
The starches and carbs that were eaten back then were fine because they weren’t processed, fried, and pumped full of high fructose corn syrup.
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I agree with the processed and fried part. Not entirely convinced that HFCS in the absence of fat will cause diabetes though.
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I gained twenty pounds on APs. They slow your metabolism down. But that calorie excess intake didn’t come out of nowhere. So … I eat less.
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Congrats on your blood result and weight that’s great really. Yes you are right I need to work my ass off!
But it truly is much harder on abilify… I’ve noticed the intense craving pattern every time I’m on it compared to when I’m not on it, and my lack of ability to Excerise the way I used to… run… It’s very real. But still… I just gotta work harder and take it seriously. The hard slow and costly way, Thankyou I do agree with that. It sounds realistic. I’ll just go for daily walks and fight those cravings. It’s not easy thou but it’s worth it hopefully
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I mean, I’m not an expert, so yeah it’s possible that the corn syrup is fine, but to be honest, I’ve seen so much conflicting information that I don’t even know where to start with eating healthily. I imagine that fruits and vegetables are good, so I eat plenty of those.
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Fructose is more easily converted to fat than sugar in the liver that’s why they go on about high fructose type syrup things being bad
If I remember correctly