I find this funny

The stereotype that mexicans took all the jobs from poor white people, leaving them unable to find work but wanting to. Now they know what it’s like for literally everyone else but they still mad lol

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One argument is that illegal immigration leads to wage suppression for everyone. That is to say if cheap illegal immigrant labor is available wages will stay artificially low. Whereas if there was no illegal immigrant labor employers would have to raise wages to get works. Thereby increasing wages for almost everyone else. That is why Cesar Chavez was so against illegal immigration.

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That is where the whole Mexicans taking jobs and higher wages comes from. I tend to look more at the humanity side tho.

I think it’s funny also because most folks against immigration are xenophobic. Just look at how much trump is demonizing illegal immigrants. The scary part is that it works. I know people here in Michigan who are scared to move to az because the Mexicans will get them.

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Tell them to come in Italy, we have hundreds of thousands of African refugees. :wink:

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They’d probably commit suicide before they go somewhere with African refugees.

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Fair enough but if these people read the bible and believed in it then they believe in the whole “sins of the father are paid by punishing the son” thing and the Europeans took the land of the natives and called themselves American. So this is just reparations for the crimes from the ancestors if you believe in that.

But I don’t think shooting people at the border is going to help because 1. that’s just going to create more frustration and 2. it will lead to more violent actions from Mexicans. The wall is just making it worse.

The south park episode was hilarious about the people from the future “immigrating” to the present. The future was crappy so the future people had to come back to make a living. But then instead of killing and getting angry about the immigrants, the people of south park decided to try to make the present better by upgrading the infrastructure and helping out other countries so the future would be better but then they all decided at the end “that this is gay” lmao.

But yeah now all the poor white people know what it is like to be like everyone else but they still mad and yet I hear about “there is no white privilege”. Lol sure, that’s just what they want you to think lol. My Dad told me about the time he was working with my Mom’s cousin and he went out to get something and the guy My Dad and he were working for said to my Mom’s cousin “didn’t we get rid of all those people a long time ago?” lol. My Mom’s cousin was real cool though because he stood up for him and told him to watch his ■■■■■■■ mouth.

And it’s funny af (at these white people) because Africa has tons of resources that would make them super rich but the current regime of American corporations don’t want that to happen and actively sabotage it because Africa would become richer than the US, putting us further into the abyss of being put behind. But it doesn’t stop the problem lol It doesn’t stop the US from being put behind. It just hurts the relations between America and the rest of the world even more lol.

And you like elect a president who calls other places “shithole countries” - like the guy is so stupid that he doesn’t think that there is something that natives of foreign countries have things they like about their mother land. FURTHER hurting the relationship between America and the rest of the world AGAIN.

Like America is it’s own worst enemy I swear. I’m surprised they haven’t anhero’d anymore than they have.

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I think Africans themselves are the biggest reason for their problems.
The best places in Africa are where there is/was the most western ‘white’ influence.

You mean the places where there are more white people living. Because they have to make it good for themselves, and nobody else. Like I said, it’s as if there are things that natives to foreign lands have nothing to love about their culture and home land and current status.

Reading about REAL Native Americans, this was very much the case when the Europeans changed their name. The people of the tribes tried to teach the white people how to farm correctly, but the Europeans were stubborn, did it the way they knew how, and ■■■■■■ up the whole southwest united states by over farming the land and creating the dust bowl. That has lasted for over 100 years. It’s just a useless plot of land now because white people didn’t do what Natives told them to do. The Native Tribes knew what to do, the knew what to look for, but the white people ■■■■■■ everything up lol

You could say it was apart of the Tribe’s “religion” but I think it was more about that was just their way of life to look for certain behaviors of animals to know when to do something or not to. There was probably a certain spiritual essence to it to be able to explain what they did not understand.

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Yes or there were and after they left the Africans inherited them or many good things were constructed and taught during the colonial era.

There are many good things they can love in their culture but the general barbaric system of warlords and fanatic shamanism is not among these.

For native Americans things went very differently and it was much worse for them but still no one would like to live in that system, human sacrifices shouldn’t be reconstituted because they were great and knew what to do…

It sounds like you believe the white race is superior. Is that accurate?

No I’m talking about cultures and not races, I believe barbaric cultures are inferior, like we were in our medieval period and before.

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The whole condoning human sacrifices for the greater good kinda threw me off. I’m probably just misreading you.

What do you mean? Sorry I really don’t understand…

I don’t know I can barely think on all these drugs.

Side note: the mods must not be moderating right now everybody party.

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You would be surprised to learn that there are still a lot of white people in africa that didn’t leave.

You would be surprised to learn that this might actually help people. And that western “prosperity” might actually be bad for people. Think about how fat everyone is becoming in America and everyone blames it on cell phones, and tv. Actually it’s more about the system they created having pitfalls. Not having access to food. Because stores are closing due to the availability of online goods. But the supermarkets made it bad for local businesses, causing them to close down, and creating a poorer lower class. Each further achievement in “prosperity” creates new challenges that nobody knows how to deal with.

Not what I’m referring to. Aztec’s were not above anyone in sacrifices. Everyone was equal. We sacrificed our own just as much as we sacrificed others. There were also “slaves” that literally anyone could have happen to them if they lost what we’ll call a bet. But you could also win your freedom back so to speak. Nobody was above or below anything. It was more about what you could be than whether you could dominate your competition and get on top.

No what I am referring to is the south west united states tribes who told the white people how to farm. These people loved what they did (and by association what they believe I bet) because it produced prosperity for them. When the white people came, they did not do what they were told and ■■■■■■ up the whole land for everyone, including white people. So now they have no land, their beliefs suck, and they can only blame white people because they are the ones who ■■■■ everything up for everyone. (sound familiar?)

There could be similar things in Africa that have this occur that they don’t want white people to ■■■■ up.

I mean if xenophobia exists in America, it can exist in other countries as well. Really most immigrants send most of their money back home. America is really only a tool and they are loyal to their homeland. It’s all connected to one.

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I’m closely watching :eyes: this thread and may shut it down at any time. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Melania Trump was an illegal immigrant. She received an EB-1 visa ‘Einstein visa’ (a visa granted to immigrants who have shown extraordinary abilities).

Now she’s trying to get her parents citizenship via chain migration.

That’s all I’ll say on this.

I agree with most things but this one:

First world problems are much softer than third world or the problems of our ancestors in the middle ages, in fact people from the third world comes here.
Hunger, thirst, tribal warfare, diseases, lack of schools… Even my grandmother that lived here 80 years ago saw the difference and liked this system much more because in her family there was not a lot to eat, houses were cold, people had to work in the farms for 15 hours every day to eat and doctors were clueless, many kids died.

The revolution started for her family when the first Tractors arrived from the US, much less people were required in the farms and so they were free to do other jobs.