I try to look at situations with empathy. If I lived in Mexico I would definitely come to the U.S. illegally if that was my only route.
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Like I said, most immigrants just use “1st world countries” as a means to send money back to their families.
All things we deal with today. Hunger, like I said, in the US, is because the lack of access to quality food because supermarkets are shutting down because the access to online goods, making it difficult to find quality food and forcing to settle with fast food (because they are ■■■■■■■ everywhere).
Thirst - fresh water is being dried up in the united states because of the use of it and would not be this way if there were no dams, or running tap water. Tap water puts the water into the filtration system and not back into the source. Also corporations pollute what good water there is and making wild fish poisonous. California is running out of water.
Tribal warfare - I’m sure you heard of gangs and the kkk right? Also the USA has a lot of war going on all the time. Several at once in fact. The drug war since before I was ever born, which lets them go over and destroy the crops in Mexico and all kinds of ■■■■. “War on terror” which lead people over into Iraq where nobody was actually there who attacked us and Iraq was considered an ally at the time but it was just the “tribal instinct” that lead people over there. And there are children there probably scared as hell wondering when the united states is going to drop a bomb on their house.
Disease - again this ties back into quality food. Eat enough hamburgers and you’ll get a heart disease that could have been prevented. Interestingly enough, there was a guy they found frozen in eruope awhile back. He was a frozen caveman or something like that and they thawed him out and dissected him (he was already dead because freezing explodes your cells making it impossible to come back with today’s technology) and they found he had cholesterol problems and high blood sugar like many do today.
I’ve heard people from the Lakota tribe say that things were so much better “back in the day” because there was no diabetes, no alcohol addiction, no obesity. “When white man find this land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex. Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.” - Chief Two Eagles
Lack of schools - goes back to my original point but you probably won’t get it. Native tribes in America already knew how to farm the land and tried to teach the Europeans. The did not listen. Destroyed the entire south west united states. It’s a desert to this day. The knowledge the tribes had was well suited to their environment until the white guys showed up. And they brought diseases with them too because they did not wash. They didn’t need white people, white people needed them.
The same thing is happening over and over again. Except this time the ones being immigrated on are the white people who think there way of life is the better one. But the immigrants are just playing the game the white man (of the past) made. And that the current ones subscribe to as the supreme one above all. So if you ask me, it’s about time for a change.
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I don’t think you can compare their hunger, thirst, tribal warfare etc. with the ones of the US… Life expectancy is much lower in those countries because of the severity of these issues.
No they can’t be compared that is correct. I bet you they have ways of justifying and enjoying the way they live. Which is why you can’t say that the culture you live in is better. Or call them barbaric. Because you didn’t live there to grow up with the frame of reference that they have to love their land and culture.
I bet you they love their land and home and people and culture just like you do yours.
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If there were aliens here in a country with a superior culture I would move there…
Yes they have some ways of justifying, some are pure nonsense, like once I heard an interview of a Belgian guy fighting and living in the Islamic State and justifying their atrocities because it is their ‘law’ and he liked it.
But many of these issues are the ones they hate about their land and culture for these things forced them to move abroad.
Since no one was currently typing a response, I swooped in and closed this thread. Good job everyone with keeping the discussion amicable. 
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EDIT: Actually, the owl swoop was more like this…
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They would pay you dirt and call you names and say your homeland and culture are trash.
That is what you think because that is what they report. Most immigrants are not even violent. Most are just trying to make a living so they can send money back to their families. Why would they want to mess that up? There is more out there than meets the eye.
And the reason for the issue in the middle east is that Nazi Germany redrew borders in that region and when they fell, the ones who won the war had to redraw them again. And then there was a lot of “this is my land” and “well this is MY land first” and that turned into fighting which eventually boiled over to fighting the west because they were the ones who messed everything up in the first place.
I mean I can only give you so many examples of the same thing…
And I hear the issue is made worse because of global warming making it not rain in the middle east. So crops will not grow. Making people have to look for work elsewhere and eventually get picked up by ISIS, Al Qaeda, ect.
And this is all because of the west’s “prosperity” is actually not all that good.
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