Hygiene and sz

I’m a very messy person. I bathe daily but I have no motivation to clean my house.

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i used to have a set routine for bed (shower etc) but lately even thats too hard. i dont have the energy to clean either :frowning: im sorry

same for me.but i like to clean my rooms…!!!

I am currently medication free.
Although my motivation has improved a little bit and I can feel some more pleasure ( a tiny bit more)
I still suffer from negative symptoms but I do get depressed a lot.

I have a hard time motivating myself with showering - I do not shower everyday.
I also have a hard time motivating myself to brush my teeth.
I have an easier time with shaving but do not shave everyday.

Negative sysmptoms are not completely a product of the APs - just partially.
Negative symptoms are really caused by having either a Schiz - related illness (psychotic condition) or Depression or both (in my case)

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@Wave how is it going without medicine…!!!
Are U able to cope…!!!
hope u doing well without med…

So far I am doing pretty well, I am dealing with some depression, and maybe some hypomania? ( a lot of anxiety and some irritability) this could be hypomania but it is very mild and not euphoric - No full blown Manias.

My doctor prescribed me Depakote, but I am reluctant to take it, Depakote , did some liver damage in the past I really want to observe myself further. My psychiatrist wants me to take the Depakote if I show signs of true Mania.
Depakote was prescribed to me because she is concerned that I might get full blown Mania - very common with Bipolar type 1 - so far no Manias what so ever. There is now a chance that I do not suffer from Bipolar Type I - My psychiatrist is montoring me and also is starting to doubt my type 1 diagnosis.

My previous Anger outbursts were probably a symptom of the AP withdrawal ( she recognizes this)
I no longer get angry - so it probably was related to the withdrawal.

Yesterday I had a brief Visual Hallucination - but it was probably related to my depression and could have been more of an Illusion - no chronic Hallucinations or Delusions.,

My current symptoms without meds except for some Klonopin are:
On off Anxiety, Social Withdrawal, some Depression,OCD type symptoms, Paranoia connected to Anxiety (people or social related) there are other symptoms but they are not psychosis related.

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I’m in the same boat. I’m good at taking care of general personal hygiene but at the same time I hate cleaning up rooms. It’s weird.

I’m a bit on messy side too.:blush:.
But sweep n mop once week.
Wash clothes ,dishes etc

Shower daily .
Was vegan 8 months am not any more but my sweat can really reak bad so the vegan deodorants didn’t do the job for me anyhow.
Rexona I use now .
So happy with it.really affordable n works so well for my body. I think.

I admit I don’t shower daily - but I think that is just me being lazy because I have always been that way. Only as a kid when my mom forced me to did I shower daily. I mean really I go by the shower every day several times so if I wanted to, I could.

As for cleaning, I think about it often. I want to clean. I used to overclean. Now it is very difficult - I think about it, then I think about all the steps involved, then I think about everyone else that lives here and really they don’t pick up after themselves, and then I get angry, then I get depressed and it circles back around.

Plus I just got a lot going on right now and I think about all that. Too much thinking, I think.

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I shower daily. What’s so difficult about it? Do you maybe have an aversion to the water or something?

Those that have difficulty showering could use a wet cloth to wipe down body with.

I love water n feel of it but some seem have difficulties showering but there’s other options to cleaning body.

i shower daily but i have no initiative to clean my room or the house… hopefully by reducing meds this can change and make me more motivated.

Thinking about thinking, i get stuck on this way to often. Pages and pages written in notebook on the subject.

I have been known to go long long time without showering or cleaning. The longer it has been since i have done either the harder it seems to be to do. Thought about tieing brooms to my dogs or something, they really need to start pitching in around here, they arent pulling their weight.

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NO What !!.. No Chores plz…

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I don’t have a problem with personal hygiene but keeping the house tidy is a real chore for me.

I remember when I was psychotic during my early twenties I couldn’t clean the house at all. I couldn’t have people knock at the door because I was so ashamed of the state of my house

No matter how much it affected me, I just couldn’t clean.

Now I find it difficult to keep up with household chores but I try my best just so I can avoid things getting as bad as they once were.

still working on this… and working … and working…

Cleaning house is hard for me too, but I shower twice or three times a week, and do daily ablutions for prayer. The carpets haven’t seen a vacuum in months, but I try to sweep the house every two weeks. Low motivation.

this is helped by a certain serotonin receptor being “agonized” or “activated” by drugs such as ziprasidone/geodon, quetiapine/seroquel, and clozapine/clozaril…they work on a dopamine pathway that is actually less active…funny, the other three pathways are insanely active…or so I “learned”, more like was told by one scientist who thought he was right.

But more stringent studies show that negative symptoms aren’t all that well-improved by second-generation meds.

here is a neat series on the matter I feel you would totally dig, @Wave

again, it is one scientist’s view, and we are all human, but I found it very informative. You seem to dig psychiatry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz8lndMEYi4&list=PL6EFD8AA6A95D8D0A&index=4

it’s a series of videos, they are short and to the point, med-school pace of information downpour- I suggest pausing it and repeating it. The four dopamine pathways and also the mechanisms of action of second-generation AP’s (related to the D pathways) is well-explained.

Hope this helps- I hardly ever recommend stuff like this to other patients, but you are on point and a smart cookie, noticeably bright.

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Hygiene/keeping the flat clean and tidy are major issues for me.As @Reggie says the longer it is the harder it is. With the hygiene it is the whole process of running a bath,getting in,washing and then getting into pyjamas or if taken during the day.new clothes. Having lots of baths equals paranoia over the washing machine going kaput more quickly as more clothes need washing. It’s a residue from an episode in 2009 that has never totally gone away.
With cleaning and tidying the flat,it’s very much an organisational come motivational thing.
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I find that if I am very tired, or perhaps just feeling sad, (happens some evenings…as I ruminate on how messed up I am, what I experience, and how what others see in my daily life is nothing less than professional), I start to dislike flossing and brushing. I dont know why, but everything else is easier. I think it has to do with seeing my reflection and the whole psychoanalysis really being just talking to your reflection thing.