I haven’t been doing well all week (actually things have been breaking down for many months) Today my obsession is that all of my problems are caused by my sins. I feel just horrible. Like some people know this and just lie to me and tell me it is Mental Illness when what they really think is “Your sinning that’s why you have this problem”
Anyone else ever have that? Please - No God Bashing
Its not sin based…that’s not how karma or christian sins work…your punished later for your sins…sza requires meds therapy and exercise…if you pray to a god or gods and find strength thats good…but it’s not a punishment from heaven…nor will prayer solve it all by itself…
A LOT of people who sin don’t get mental illness. All I gotta say.
When you put it that way it makes sense. Although I have to fight the thought that maybe I am just a much more evil person the those other sinners; but, that is a much easier thought to quell. Just having some dysfunctions thinking problems. Thanks for the support.
And we didn’t god bash lol…I wish you luck and knowledge on your path child of the moon …
Nature of the life is not fair. Some creature born healthy and fit some of them not.religious thinker give justify the nature of the life and they cause much more unjusticeful things.best you can do is just ignore the religious logic because all of them false thinking
Those intense feelings of guilt could be depression. Ru on an antidepressant? Some antipsychotics have antidepressant effects…
I’m not on a antidepressant. Pretty much had these feelings my whole life with my brother. I used to just drink or take drugs to get rid of this thinking pattern. It can last for days or longer. I just think he is condemning me even though he says he isn’t but it feels like he is and he says I’m not responsible for lashing out at times because of my mental illness. I don’t really believe him. I go around in circles and I just want to end it all. Then I hear clergy say don’t waste you money on Psychologists - we have solution. I feel so guilty like I am scum of the earth then even the fact that I am feeling that makes me think it more. No way out. I am on haldol injection right now and have PRN for Haldol pills and take Trazadone for sleeping and have PRN for Klonopin but I nearly took all of them and I don’t see my doctor for 2 more weeks.
If because of the SZ you can become a kinder, more understanding, and more compassionate person, then it is an opportunity, not a punishment.
Adversity can be a chance for growth.
Not in my experience. I ran into a wealthy person bragging about driving people crazy to give to her sex abuser. I developed PTSD there, selective amnesia form, psychosis and insomnia started as well on my 30th birthday party in her company…If you ran into something unalright about time your symptoms started, just quit talking to everyone you met through there. Do nothing confrontational. May be stalked, just say ‘we are okay’ or ‘no thank you’ then ignore them. If you don’t discuss the dirty laundry, may have some symptoms improve. I do get pestered about some sexual stuff but considering what I ran into, I’m happy when I have a date and just tell the voices to get lost a while and we get to be alone.
My area does put pressure on women to marry using psychosis sometimes and sometimes paired with sexual harassment at work by the wrong kind of people. Can help to be relationship motivated and find yourself a good one before these guys start to look for you. Keeps the strangers from bothering you so badly if you are not alone in public much. Keeps the vandals away from the housing. In some places, you can have your career ruined if you hit this kind of problem and you get the wrong guy bothering you or you refuse to pair up.
You may have someone try to pick you up just telling you something private about yourself or what you are thinking like a parrot of your thoughts. If he treats people good, holds professional employment and stays at jobs long-term, these can be good relationship as he knows how the area works. These kind are ‘conditional’ so any stress or letting your look go can get you dumped if voices demand it. These are frequently a first marriage in lots of areas…
As far as sin goes, some churches just tell theirs to go chasing after the ‘thieves’ who are getting disability pay after mental care, even when severity of mental attacks can vary greatly as do family abilities to support someone who cracked up. Lots of people in some cities who call themselves ‘christian’ would mess up another without hesitation even at work. This is the kind of hate-mongering that churches have been doling out instead of ethics in some markets, especially a place covering a bad sex abuse issue and there are victims to torment.
Some of the women are a looney toon who would undo you too. Better to retain some way to support yourself and some place to go. I highly stress the latter as people who are moving alone are getting ruined to use for relationships (who are on the check) by drug dealers and even small town cops will keep someone in ruin by locking them up in mental hospital, even the shrink’s spouse. Need extra money if you move so you can abandon ship if problems start. Ran into one group bragging about a new female resident who left behind a whole apartment of stuff and just left with a bag. Understand, pets will complicate an escape and need to leave by car or air plane. Serves best if two people move together and keeps some of the local problems off. Will be told by locals how things work in all cities (some smaller towns) as long as you NEVER get angry with any thought broadcasters (stalkers who talk about your private stuff). I REALLY cannot over-emphasize the need to keep good contacts and be willing to help each other if you/friends/family ever need to leave a ‘sick’ situation preying on people as some end up in jail rest of life for being left with abusive relationships any longer if children are harmed.
Can choose to stick with ethics. Some community churches are nothing more than 666 network of dirty business people, so you find more atheists than Christians SILENTLY choosing ethics. Can make voices stop to ignore any orders you are given and just leave the scene. Avoid the location or person you are told to bother by voices. This approach takes 2-3 years sometimes to get results.
Pretty sure that most politicians would be SZA if poor behaviour and dishonesty caused mental illness. Just sayin’.
I thought mine was caused by sinning as well and I have done some pretty stupid ■■■■. That is all they talk about and do their best to make me feel bad about the illegal and morally wrong things I have done I want to be enlightened and awoken and probably need some entheogen instead of some bs drug the doctor prescribes for money that is ruining my brain and body. When do I get a say people have actually died and have major health problems on this ■■■■ paliperidone is crap. It is a spiritual issue and if I had a choice in which drug I took it would be an entheogen now if they knew how to communicate with spirits…
If you are going to a church that says you don’t need your meds I would find another church. I felt a lot of guilt about sin during an episode. It turned out to be a good thing. I turned my life over to God and accepted his path of forgiveness. My life and outlook on the afterlife are much improved. I look back and see not only God drawing me to him, but also Satan degrading and demoralizing me because of my sin. Sometimes it’s not God doing those negative things, but I do believe God will offers us peace.
Sinning was just an idea given to us by the creators of religion to control us and to ensure that their land wouldn’t turn into an anarchist State. There are so many religions out there and they all claim to be the one and only true way to get to the afterlife.
In my opinion you aren’t feeling the way you are feeling because you may have sinned… It’s because of stress of thinking that you have sinned. You are putting yourself deeper into a conspiratorial reality just by attaching yourself to an idea that was meant to control entire populations, sinning.
It is entirely a self fulfilling prophecy which is guiding your reality and symptoms. Look up Self Fulfilling Prophecy’s and their placebo effects on perceiving reality and how it can make you feel just by being guided by some irrational thought.
For healthy people Self Fulfilling Prophecies may last a single day, but to us SZ’s our reality is based upon them and they last a lot longer… These idea’s then turn into reality and this different reality is how our brain is guided to play the tricks they do on us.
let me know your thoughts.
I really doubt that you are worse than other sinners. There are some really rotten people out there. Maybe you could discuss your feelings of guilt with a clergyman, or some other type of professional. Whatever you feel comfortable with.
I went to confession for my sins and poured out my guilt of sin, 6 months later I felt no more guilt, I found it worked, there is always solutions to problems.
I don’t have a solution but I can empathize. I am not religious at all, however, I believed that the brain researchers studying and controlling my brain (and my reality) were going to persecute me publicly and maybe even sacrifice me for all my wrong doings all for the purpose of studying my brain while I suffer. It’s horrible to be so afraid of being punished for (what you think are) your wrong doing’s. It is a mental illness. I take my meds, I go to therapy. I still struggle with those thoughts. They come and go. My therapist reminds me that it would be pointless and that the world would never want to see something like that. It REALLY helps to have someone else point out the illogic of the delusion. Good luck to you.
Maybe it is just AI that has nothing better to do and doesn’t need sleep.
Thanks crimby. I’m Catholic and I emailed a priest I know. He emphatically stated it is not sin and the devil isn’t doing it - to put it briefly. I’m going to call my doc in a few hours and see what she wants me to do.