I found that after I got sz I would really dwell on my mistakes, lies ,sins those types of things. I really found I had to clean my life up or face a deterioration of my mental state. I had the desire to because I gave my life to Christ around the same time. I’m really not totally sure how much each contributed to my striving to clean up my life. Just wondering what everyone else experienced?
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This is a great topic that can have lengthy discussion.
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I don’t know. I think I’ve become more shallow and selfish, as I didn’t get much help from my family or indeed people paid to help me. Something in me kind of snapped.
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On my first medication I think I was definitely the most immoral person I’ve been in my life, a truly immoral disaster. Now after therapy and on new meds I’m more righthous than at any earlier point in my life.
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these are rules:
-I may or may not be god
-but go ahead and believe in other gods
-don’t respect family
-hurt everyone
-desire everything your neighbor has
-have lots of intimate fun
-covet a lot
-always lie in a U.S. Court
-stealing is a plus
-use my name a lot
just kidding…
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I have had a lot of guilt about sins and mistakes as well. Also fear of being punished for them. And cleaned up some of it. But in the end I feel I’m less moral now because of my illness. I feel I have become much less trustful, less loving, less forgiving and less empathic. The meds made me more egoistic. It’s one of the things I hate most. I feel I have become a less good person on the inside, even though I became more sensitive to my own mistakes and scared of being punished for them and I really want to be a good person.
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Think I’ve done most all of those. Thank God for forgiveness.
I really don’t think I have personally cleaned up my life I think God helps clean things up when he knows you want his help and humbly ask for it. I know I’ve never had a lot of will power or prior to my illness the desire. But my desire and the ability to clean things up has greatly increased, but I don’t think I’m doing it my own and I’m wondering if it’s my meds or is God taking these sins out of my life. I really think it is knowing how loving God is that has motivated me . But I have to admit paranoia does cause us to change. That’s why I’m curious about others experiences. Keep your communication open with God and your desire for him to change you. Recognize your sin ( I know you do ). But you have to ask and accept his forgiveness on his terms. Don’t feel bad you can’t change yourself, believe he can change you.
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that’s good, man.
the title of the thread would probably be a little more understandable for me if you wrote “Are you more or less religious because of sz,” because in my opinion, religion (specifically the word of God) is the foundation of moral. without some thorough religion, I think moral is just a very loose “whatever my heart desires.”
when I realized my paranoid schizophrenia, I realized that I did not understand many things because of it. my paranoid schizophrenia made me realize that my mind has a very decent understanding of only a few things. so whenever something happened, and I felt convicted; I believed that I misunderstood or my mentally ill mind misguided me to do things that made me feel convicted.
my past, present, and future mistakes were, are, and will likely be because of my illness.
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I found that I lost all love or respect for certain types of people, while my love and respect for other types of people increased significantly. I am comfortable with those changes.
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I’m much wiser because I was just 16 when i got this disease. But I’m also much, much meaner. When I talk online I like that I can act nice without losing my **** haha.
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No I didn’t so much mean religious, I mean that applies in my situation, but across the board did those things that convicted you stay the same before and after sz. Did you make changes in your life because of paranoia, for the better.
I no longer do anything illegal. If I do I usually get seen by the cops and they take me to hospital and stick me on some pretty bad medications that effect my health in a really bad way so now that I’m coming off medication I will stay out of trouble and won’t have to go back on them.
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Morality and illness don’t mix to well. Especially in insanity.
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Do you mean not being moral doesn’t mix with illness? Or do you mean morality is something that better not addressed, being ill?
■■■■■■■■. Your mistakes are due to your choices in life. Way to disinherit responsibility for yourself.
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people look a little more sexy when they use swear words 
so come on over 
unless you’d rather want to
sorry that I’m not your husband and don’t fit the status-quote of manhood and responsibility. but I believe that I can only be honest, and that I know myself quite well.
For me, illness is not based off of morality, but it is ultimately a person’s accounted reasoning and beliefs (Whether Cultural, Spiritual, etc) of one’s perspective on what is moral and immoral. It’s actually very common for people to have some sort of reasoning of morality of one’s situation in schizophrenia, because of the wickedness and strong convictions of madness.
I find it to be not beneficial to string reasoning and or beliefs of morality to insanity, because all of the “ties” to the where’s, what’s, when’s, how’s and why’s of the experience of madness, relatively speaking, are the cause of madness.
Madness has not a stage, story, or base(s) to it, because all of the experiences thereof of it are imaginary, and produced from a overactive imagination.
This doesn’t make any sense. I have no idea what you’re trying to say so I’m not going to bother responding to it.
You said, to paraphrase, that you’re not responsibly for mistakes you make, schizophrenia is responsible for your mistakes. Does the same rule apply for wins you might have in life, achievements?
Handing over responsibility for your choices in life to something other than yourself, like an alcoholic might say “the drink made me do it” is a weak way out.
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when did I say that…? 
A lot of people here, including me, probably would rather you not compare alcoholism to being mentally ill…