Had to leave group

Is it in a hospital, a clinic, some “pshrinque’s” office, or someone’s back yard or hot tub?

Yeah; I’m very curious about the license.

You always do.

:two_hearts:

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One of the more common idealisms in the families of origin of neurotic, borderline and psychotic patients everywhere.

(I was sooooooooooo helped by the phrase they throw around AA, NA and most other 12 Step groups: “Progress, not perfection.”)

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Whose parents could easily be diagnosed as psychotic or borderline if they hadn’t mastered their social masks and kept their craziness to themselves while ruining the lives of everyone around them…

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Did I send you that list of books about “crazy-making” families? I read all that stuff, and it was like attaching a Delta 4 booster to my butt. My head began to make complete sense to me, and – with those therapies I keep touting – I launched myself out of the worst of it for sure.

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I don’t think you sent me anything about famillies. I honestly can’t wait to read books like those… I tried to order “Guide to what’s ‘normal’” but my gift card ran out but once i get money id read just about anything that can make me more forgiving of myself

Cheap, cheap on amazon.com. Like usually under $15.00 shipped.

Anonymous: Adult Children of Alcoholics: Alcoholic / Dysfunctional Families, Torrance, CA: ACA World Service Office, 2006.

Black, C.: It Will Never Happen to Me: Children of Alcoholics as Youngsters-Adolescents-Adults, New York: Ballentine, 1981, 1987.

Woititz, J. G.: Adult Children of Alcoholics, Pompano Beach. FL: Health Communications, 1983.

Miller, A.: For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in Child Rearing and the Roots of Violence, London: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1979, 1983.

Miller, A.: Prisoners of Childhood / The Drama of the Gifted Child, New York: Basic Books, 1979, 1996.

Miller, A.: Thou Shalt Not Be Aware: Society’s Betrayal of the Child, London: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1981, 1984, 1998.

Perry, B.; Szalavitz, M.: The Boy Who was Raised as a Dog…, New York: Basic Books, 2007.

Forward, S.: Toxic Parents: Overcoming their Hurtful Legacy and Reclaiming Your Life, New York: Bantam Books, 1989.

Forward, S.: Emotional Blackmail: When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You, New York: HarperCollins, 1997.

Brown, N.: Children of the Self-Absorbed: A Grown-Up’s Guide to Getting Over Narcissistic Parents, 2nd. Ed., Oakland, CA: New Harbinger, 2008.

Gibson, L.: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents, Oakland, CA: New Harbinger, 2015

Golomb, E.: Trapped in the Mirror: Adult Children of Narcissists in Their Struggle for Self, New York: William Morrow, 1992.

Payson, E.: The Wizard of Oz and other Narcissists: Coping with One-Way Relationships in Work, Love and Family, Royal Oak, MI: Julian Day, 2002.

Bateson, G., Jackson, D., Haley, J.; et al: Perceval’s Narrative: A Patient’s Account of his Psychosis, Palo Alto, CA: Stanford University Press, 1961.

Esterson, A.: The Leaves of Spring: Schizophrenia, Family and Sacrifice, London: Tavistock, 1972.

Henry, J.: Pathways to Madness, New York: Random House, 1965.

Jackson, D. (ed.): The Etiology of Schizophrenia: Genetics / Physiology / Psychology / Sociology, London: Basic Books, 1960.

Jackson, D.: Myths of Madness: New Facts for Old Fallacies, New York: Macmillan & Co., 1964.

Laing, R. D.; Esterson, A.: Sanity, Madness and the Family, London: Tavistock, 1964.

Lidz, T.: The Origin and Treatment of Schizophrenic Disorders, New York: Basic Books, 1973.

Lidz, T.; Fleck, S., Cornelison, A.: Schizophrenia and the Family, 2nd Ed.; New York: International Universities Press, 1985.

Scharff, J. S.: Foundations of Object Relations Therapy, London: Jason Aaronson, 1989.

Time to sell a bunch of ■■■■! :smile:

It’s “be ye therefore holy”, not perfect. And the meaning of holy is not the same, at all, as perfect. To be holy means to be set apart. To separate yourself from the unthinking, selfish, careless masses. Be holy, only God is perfect.

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Bluey –

Sorry you’re having a hard time.

The positive aspect of all this: you’re aware you’re “not yourself”, and consciously working against it, and telling people about it.

I can’t believe your therapist sent you home after you told her. I would hope any shrink worth their license would take such a statement seriously, rather than telling you to go home and “soothe yourself”. I imagine you weren’t being belligerent or threatening to anyone there?

Tomorrow will be better.

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Yours is a hard story. I mean the story has a ring of truth to it, but really it must feel bad to you.

Jayster

I’m sorry @Bluey, my therapist told me that if I’m full blown psychotic he can’t help me, there’s no reasoning there. Maybe that was the premisse, you seem reasonable, but let me tell you, if you chose to believe in the supernatural it’s very difficult to crawl out of it. I actually chose not to because it’s better for my mental health to believe in what is provable. But that’s a choice you need to consider.

Good luck man, hope you feel better.

Tell me about it. I have unusual beliefs coming out my ears. I just accept them now.

Me too. After leaving TCM its like I have to deformat my brain. And with all the prior beliefs… Sucks