My unusual idea is true. I don’t know how it is happening, but all the evidence of my senses tells me it is happening.
Thanks for posting. I have this exact experience, and I struggle to reason with it as this belief is not accepted in our world, and it’s very hard to function with all this going on.
I think that when I overdosed, I killed a part of my soul and that’s why I have these voices as a higher being(s) has taken control of things because I suck at life. I don’t know.
I’m pretty sure it’s the people dude. What is the substrate of these handlers?
You believe in disembodied intelligence? Truly free conscious?
If it’s real at all. I’ve determined that no one has a choice in this. They have to suffer me and I have to suffer them.
Hello Scottb
I believe that anyone with this condition hearing voices, starseeds, channelers, and any one feverishly seeking answers throughout the internet for answers to unidentifiable spiritual experiences are dealing with this problem. The problem is not simple and one many would never understand. They enter into the souls mind. The souls mind is the astral or our ability to find ourselves again after this life time is over. The voices you hear is a incredibly advanced program of sorts involving thousands of souls from many worlds within each individual. The voices you all hear is just the outside of this problem which consists of 11 or less voices i call this problem face. I can tell you every part of them and how they are all connected and how they will all react.
Powessy
Hello Soitgoes
The sub strait to this problem is that they do not care if you hear them or not you can’t do anything about them and they do not understand even where they are inside you they just hear your endless mind working. They Hear your thoughts and do not understand them for your words make no since to them. imagine reading a sentence and not seeing the words as images or thoughts about the words forming this is how they can be so badly done. No emotion no understanding of things they just hear thoughts about thoughts and respond. Should I kill my self, yes kill yourself what does it mean to be dead we do not understand that thought, is how they reply. Ask your voices to explain death what does it mean to them.
Powessy
What are they then? Shapeshifters like in the Fringe show? MIB that are aliens? My understanding is they are human and while some may have psychic abilities they also use technology and mind games.
Here’s a little secret…they can sometimes manipulate events and cause things to happen that you would swear someone has read your mind but in reality it is all a set up and being orchestrated by ‘them’ while you just play the role they created for you.
However, demons could also pose as handlers and cause you to think a human or non human but non demon entity is your handler.
Just beat the game and turn it around.
Monarch programming is achieved through repeated abuse and torture, until the victim dissociates from reality into a fantasy world in their head. When that happens somehow an alternate personality is created, and the handler (abuser) can trigger this personality at any time.
Monarch Mind Control | The Conspiracy Wiki | Fandom
Consider however, what if this is like a school that either you or your family enrolled you in, maybe subconsciously? Like any other school which has rigorous tests, either pass or fail, and not just pass, rather Excel.
That Beta program they mention is ridiculous and downright sinful.
Theta on the other hand is a rather cool concept, though it can be misused…
THETA -Psychic programming …the “exotic one”. But not to be confused with the paranormal phenomenon of fortune telling or future forecasting. Those are examples of a magician’s craft - while Theta psychic programming was and is the exploration of an unpredictable fact of human science. The initial results of Theta programmed subjects were inconsistent that the Theta project was virtually abandoned before its research completion date. Duke University, North Carolina, among other prominent “institutions”, devoted many years to this project with what equated to poor results. It seems that the region of the brain able of transmitting and/or receiving “mental messages” has not yet evolved to a level for dependable communication…with any predictable, reliable consistency. The Soviets, however, invested billions of dollars into their version of psychic research and claimed/proved remarkable successes. With the advances in directed energy research… Theta “psychic driving” is obsolete.
Operation Monarch
^ LOL, last sentence…directed energy cannot incorporate the organic brains factor of ingenuity, emotional perception, and personal connection…
Thank you for the reply powessy. Do you have any links from online where I could take a look about this?
From my experience they pass on information between each other that causes these orchestrations. I am not sure if they know it or not, but I can hear them arguing amongst themselves about all sorts of things.
As of 2015, the development of actual quantum computers is still in its infancy, but experiments have been carried out in which quantum computational operations were executed on a very small number of qubits
‘tell them the program is still in operation…from the white house on mars…’
haha, very funny… someone should go remote view that and see if it’s true!
Hello scottb
There are no links that I can find only the words and experiences that I am being told about. I have gotten to see all the parts of them in all the different ways they are knotted together. I see them in many words from many people as they sometimes talk through them with out them knowing. My understanding of them is ongoing 24/7 and keeps changing to reveal the next parts to them. Have you tempted to try and understand the words they say as they argue. Ask them simple questions in words spelt out they will understand this first example HELLO in your mind and see if they react to this.
Powessy
I understand every word. I engage with them on several levels. Only today they talked to me through someone else. It was only a few words, but they said something to me and the person in front of me repeated the same words. Happens quite a lot. Sometimes I will just say what I hear before the person I am with has the chance to speak, and they get freaked because I said exactly what was on their mind. I don’t know. I think it’s because I can hear what’s being communicated to them. They help me when I think by making suggestions, and I will take their advice if I agree with it. They do sometimes get angry with me, but I also get angry with them sometimes as a few of them are out to trick me and make me act up.
Hello scottb
Ask them what they think you are. Can they see through your eyes? They see thoughts about things even mental recognition so to test them on sight you must look at many things and have them describe what they see without you thinking about it. Can they talk through you in your voice or are they only words you hear?
Powessy
They said I was the Messiah, but they were joking. They can manipulate my vision as well, so I am guessing they can see through it. When they talk through me is when I cannot hear them. I think they can only achieve this when I am absent minded, or not paying attention to them.
Hello scott
How do they manipulate your vision and just because they can move your eyes does not mean they can see this world. Ask them why they believe you are the messiah is it because you can not become yourself inside yourself. My voices tell me that I can not ever become something again and are considering that I may be some exotic flower or something like that or even mold for everything else has the ability to become something again but I don’t,
Powessy
Hello scottb
When they talk through me they talk using my mouth and body as in possession, talking out loud, physically becoming themselves. I can let them become themselves and walk around and look at things and ask questions about things they see in this world.
Powessy
Only Jesus is the Messiah…they can probably trigger old memories like this acid poem i did in the 80s, suddenly comes back to me…yes, it would be in my memory but why does it surface now in this detail? the actual poem was like 2 handwritten pages long with several more pages of other writing beyond that…this is what i remember…wish i hadn’t gotten rid of my old notebooks…I cast them out and destroyed them when I first became a Christian and thought every single thing in them was darkness…
Just to let you know i haven’t taken LSD in 30 years, don’t get high any more, havent even had wine in 2 years…nor do i endorse such practices…
‘They’ did use LSD in the experiments though…
From 1984:
Is my salty calling true?
Gimme’ some acid and a gallon of wine.
I’ll be right there beside you and I will feel fine.
I have left this world projected outa my mind.
Ten thousand calamities conjeal for a time.
Under the planets I am eating some cake,
Under your eaves the elves begin to quake.
Voices in graveyards, dead but alive.
Under the bushes an elf does survive.
Who molds these images I cannot make clear,
Though all of the images are clear as they appear.
I know the thoughts of someone centuries away,
I live in tomorrow as is past like today.
Smoke marijuana and take LSD,
It provokes your mind like you never thought it to be.
Solve the equation of eternity,
Drinking wine while on LSD.
Ebullently parsimonious I thought it to be.
Unparagoned in equinamity.
Magnanimous structures sort of thought to embrace,
Someone has arrived with a beer full of case.
Ephermal delusion trapped in suspended time,
Becomes fortuitous motions by extent of my mind.
Supererogation becomes easy for me,
As beyond all colors I can surely see.
A zeugmatic expression is all that can be,
As one becomes everything by incomprehensibility.
While I resort to being plenipotentiary,
Just drinking wine while on LSD.
the flowers are blooming while the March winds doth blow,
The melting sunshine deletes all the snow.
Ascending above the earth as i was below.
Everything combinates with all that i know…
^ PS: Might have to use the dictionary for some of that…In my early 20s I used to study large dictionaries to learn every uncommonly used word there was so i wouldn’t be stumped in conversations by the usage of 1 or 2 uncommon words by someone who was more educated than me… i don’t use those words in normal conversation now, but then i did and got labelled the ‘mad professor’ a few times.
1 Like
They make me see things that are not really there. Sometimes I look back, and what I saw was not really there. Then they try and manipulate me into doing things but I have none of it. I only act on what they say when I agree with it, they’re enmeshed with my thinking and personality. Some are nice, others not so much. I fight letting them take control of me. Last time they did I went through a journey that lasted days seeing the world as they do, and it ended with me being taken to hospital by the police and sedated with meds.
The Messiah thing to them was a joke. Some are fairly humorous and they mean no harm. I am used to the barrage of things like that, but I know my place in this world and don’t take much notice of things like that.
Interesting poem. When I took LSD I drew pictures with a biro pen on scraps of paper. I still have them somewhere, but I don’t like looking at them. I have a working theory that you’re experiencing life through the collective consciousness of all life that has ever lived. I have read several books like the Holographic Universe, but evidently this labelled as ‘madness’ in this age…
1 Like
Hello scottb
I can explain this. They are inside your souls mind. inside your souls mind is a world that we create within to find answers to things during our lives and experiences. This you inside the mind of the soul is what they are in and controlling. If you have a astral projection the person that you become in this experience is who they are inside of. The journey you went on for them was in this mind and not this world as scott sees around you everyday. You are many things inside your minds mind and from there they can control you in this reality. The things they see are the things within your souls mind. imagine that inside your souls mind is a world and they can touch you there and you ca feel it here if this makes since.
Powessy
I knew there was some sort of spiritual truth to this. One thing I am certain of is that many people with SZ and other illnesses are really experiencing this in varying degrees, but cannot interpret it or get over-whelmed by the power of it - like I have done on a few occasions. I had some pretty enlightening discussions with people in hospital. That said, I am constantly put into doubt about it, because the world doesn’t want to listen and medicate anybody who has these experiences. Some days I believe, others I don’t. It can become incredibly isolating to indulge, but I can’t help it much of the time. I am confident from my personal experiences that there is something in the afterlife, so I am just waiting now until I get proof upon death. At least if I am wrong I will never be able to suffer the realisation that I was just crazy, as I will be dead if that turns out to be the case.