Feel like I'm not moving forward on Abilify low dose, impulse control problems, hypersexuality, apathy, low drive

Since going down to 2.5mg Abilify two weeks ago, there have been some changes. Not all of them were good. I will outline them briefly. No real need for anyone to respond, just getting thoughts out.

I’ve experienced an improvement in anhedonia, or maybe mood. I feel better and a bit more stable emotionally, though I still experience psychosis about 3 times a week like clockwork. Lately, I can almost. anticipate exactly when it will come. So that’s not an issue really.

My psychosis attacks have gotten better since I was on higher doses, maybe from time passing, and maybe from the lower antipsychotic doses. They still feel devastating when they come, but pass quickly.

I’m not trolling now, just being honest about what my life has become. The reality is that something, either the antipsychotics or the illness, has messed with my impulse control in a very specific and discomforting way. I experience compulsive urges for sexual release about a dozen times a day, as a result, I spend most of my time trying to satisfy these urges myself and not getting my homework or much of anything else done. It just seems diabolical, the way in which my libido and cycle of arousal has changed. After I am “finished” I find myself disgusted by whatever fantasy I was engaged in, however after about ten minutes I am very urgently needing another release again.

Sorry for being explicit in describing that, it has just taken up such a huge part of my life in the past two days, I feel that this focus has become much worse after decreasing my Abilify.

Hypersexuality was an issue on most of my previous antipsychotics too. Just never as bad as it is now. For a little background, before meds/illness I would masturbate…maybe twice a week or so. I was really focused on other things in my life…kind of like most normal healthy people are. And after I was done I was good for half a week. Occasionally I would go a couple weeks without doing it, especially when I had a project I was working on. Something which diverted my focus and energy.

What do you reckon? Is it the Abilify, or can untreated psychosis cause hypersexuality? I don’t feel manic at all in any other way, in fact I’m quite level, or even unmotivated, which I will explain further.

The other issue is motivation and persistence in activities. While my abilities haven’t deteriorated in this aspect, I feel that I am steadily not getting anything productive done. I don’t even persist in the activities I used to enjoy, as if I no longer have any interest in them. So while I feel happier in general, I also feel unable to get any traction and get going.

As for the instability of moods, I have become more stable and do not feel as if I’m constantly on the verge of tearing up and intermittently falling into suicidal ideation. This has been a nice change for me. I hope it persists.

So, while my mood is stable, my ability to control certain very specific impulses is not. If I could just channel the energy I spend on…well, you know…into things like my homework and life, I would feel as if I were moving forward. It’s too bad I can, basically, hardly pull myself out of my bed, and spend 3 or 4 hours in there during the day even though I’m not sleeping.

TLDR: I cannot go back up to a higher dose of abilify, as I was even less stable with severe OCD and anxiety, as well as akathisia and TD. I also slept far too long to do things. It was not sustainable. While life is beautiful and all that, I feel that I’m not experiencing it to the fullest at all, as I rarely leave my room when I am not forced to do so. What do you suggest I do to get back in my groove and start actually doing things and giving a damn about life again?

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Abilify did similar things to me where it improved my mood but my impulse control was wack, but I didn’t get the other side effects you mention. I would try some CBT-type of thing where you train yourself to do useful behaviors whenever you want to do something impulsive.

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Maybe abilify even @ 2.5mg isn’t suiting you. Another med would probably suit you but it’s all personal trial and error in cooperation with your psychiatrist.

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The thing is @everhopeful, I’ve been on most of the atypicals with the exception of Clozaril. I had serious issues on most of them, where I was a danger to others and eeven suicidal at times. It seems stability has only come (with the exception of a few things) very recently with dropping abilify to 2.5. My pdoc has okayed me to gradually come off it and just maintain Seroquel 100mg as needed when I have my 3 weekly psychoses. So I’ll be taking around 300mg Seroquel a week with a little ativan for sleep like once a week. A very weird schedule, but it seems like the best thing for my stability right now. We’ll see if it will work long term.

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My sister always suggests CBT or getting a therapist to me and I always say no. I’ve had therapists before and they were always very “by the book” in their approach. It put me off therapy long term because I felt that these people were going by this repetitive formula which discounted my individuality as a patient. And I always repeat to myself that therapy can only go so far in correcting a chemical/biological issue in the brain.

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That’s why it’s often used in conjunction with medication. I’m a huge proponent of CBT, as it’s been implicated in a variety of disorders in helping people cope with them and combat the ones that can be combated.

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Will my parent’s insurance cover that?

I also feel like there are no meds which would benefit me at this point. I’m willing to try mood stabilizers but am sort of put off by their side effect profiles.

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If it will cover therapy or outpatient treatment, then you should be covered.

I have high resistance to many APs, so I understand the struggle. I’m still trying to find one that works.

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My psychiatrist and I are just playing it by ear at this point really. At the beginning I thought I needed high doses of antipsychotics because of the simple reasoning that bigger issues = bigger meds. Since then my illness has progressed to the point where I don’t feel the need for that anymore. Who knows, maybe I will in the future?

As for CBT being covered, I’m sure it is, and I’m still on my parents’ insurance, and its good insurance. But I’m still biased against therapists, maybe because I had bad ones in the past who did nothing for me. There were several of them, in fact, and I felt they were either all in it for the money or had no experience or understanding of how to deal with my unique brand of the illness. I tended to find them insensitive and questioned why they were even there doing what they were doing.

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It can be hard to find a good one. My current one isn’t that helpful, but I picked up a lot of good things from the one I saw before her.

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The thing is, and my sister always calls me out on thinking I’m too unique and special because of my illness when I say things like this, I feel like sz involves a breakdown of the mind that is too severe to be truly benefited consistently by these techniques. The ladies at our old place were big on mindfulness, and there was this one guy in our group who came in with a serious lack of insight. He was seeing constant visual hallucinations and that’s all he would talk or think about. They would talk about “empty your mind, focus on your sensations/thoughts” or whatever, and he would just keep hallucinating and ranting and raving. They made no progress in the short time he was there. Someone like that is too far gone to even make baby steps with therapy. You may teach him to dress himself, for example, but a week later he forgets how to do it! I would say my disordered behavior is like his, where you cannot easily change the undesired behavior and thoughts without completely curing the underlying issue. So I guess I just keep going in circles with this then! Basically, I’m not optimistic about this therapy, and I feel its not worth the time and effort for me to show up if there’s no guarantee I will see results. So I would rather not try it at all.

I understand, but I think trying it in combination with good medication can help. It takes time to build up the skills to use CBT effectively in your life. It also takes time because of finding the right therapist fit for you. I’m a goal-focused person, so having a therapist who is goal-oriented helps me a lot while my new therapist just talks in platitudes and doesn’t give me many actionable things to do.

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I guess part of the issue is that I’m not what you would call a goal-focused person. I have specific symptoms which I’ve described above which make it hard for me to move forward in any way. Even the task of going to one therapy appointment, finding transportation e.t.c seems way beyond me. I don’t think I could manage that on my own, and even if I had the opportunity to ask for help, I would probably pass it up because I’m passive and apathetic in life.

And right now I’m getting a really weird aura and its making me feel like I can’t stay on this site right now. I feel sick to my stomach almost. I guess this is to be expected when withdrawing from such powerful medications.

I suppose you were blessed with the ability to move forward in spite of having this illness, while I seem to find it impossible to move in a productive way. Sorry to be pessimistic, but this is a trend in this site I’ve seen over time. Many people drop out of school/work/life, not because they have bad thought processes solely, but also because they just can’t get going at things. I hate the way my life is going, but I can’t stop myself from backsliding it seems. I was really hoping coming off Abilify would break me out of this ■■■■!

I might have an exam on Wednesday and I don’t even know! Too lazy to even check online.

I believe everyone should give it the old college try if possible. That being said, I understand the struggle of functioning difficulties. I’m going through many myself as my social anxiety increases, so the actionable things my new therapist gives me are not helpful since they’re social things and I struggle particularly hard in that area while it’s untreated. That’s the key for me, however. It may not be for you, but I would hope you give it a shot just to see since your insurance should cover it.

My apologies for not connecting two and two together properly with regards to how you feel about therapy right now.

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I’m gonna take an ativan and go to sleep, go to lecture tomorrow and try and understand things, even though I have fallen behind from frankly not doing ■■■■. If I were as motivated as I was before I got sick this stuff would be a breeze. Of course there are other issues that would remain…

I’m sorry. :frowning: I hope the Ativan and sleep help.

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Hey, I feel the w/d of abilify. I used to be on 30 and last Wednesday started on 20. It feels like my brain is going to bust outta my skull and I’m hot then cold. I haven’t been able to workout cuz it’s like the flu from ■■■■■■■ hell. Yeah I’ve noticed throughout taking abilify it has changed my need to be “satisfied”. Seriously I hear ya

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If sexual addiction is creating stress in your life, altering your life, taking up a large part of your time and thoughts, causing you psychological or physical harm or embarrassment or if other issues, then you should seek help.

Most men get bored with this goofy stuff quickly. If you’re missing out on the better things in life because of a focus on erotica, it’s treatable. It’ll be a combination of talking about what it means, and perhaps some medication. Mayo’s reported Naltrexone stopping addiction cold, and I’ve heard of low doses of SSRIs working.

All young men enjoy their bodies in this way and can’t abstain totally. This doesn’t make you an “addict,” but if you are missing class / work or ignoring friendships and real-life romance that you want, get guidance. A tiny dose of a Rx can end a compulsion, or reflect that those images of perfect bodies will only frustrate you long-term and are no replacement for someone who loves you.

The “addiction-recovery” movement has done much good, but when it comes to sexuality, there is much craziness out there. Any advocate of “sexual sobriety” who tells you not to masturbate at all is giving you bad advice. If you have an obsession / compulsion with real or imagined images or acts, get with your physician for some insight treatment / Rx. Otherwise, enjoy being human.

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