Online, do you think that challenging someones ideas and providing other points of view is pro active?
In an ideal world, I think there is some value in us being able to discuss things and learn from each other, even pushing the boundaries to the max is healthy in many respects.
On the other hand there are people who genuinly need protection, but if you were to present your ideas in the proper way then i want to believe that people dont need protection, not from ideas atleast anyway.
What do you think?
Insert moral philosophy dissertation here
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Lol Iām just playing
I think itās important that we be allowed to challenge each others ideas. It happens all the time on this forum. The question is can all subjects be treated as such and perhaps in our current climate the answer is no. Some subjects canāt be mentioned on this site. Same for campuses.
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good point. And its worth being savy i think. My dad used to say āādont tell people what you are thinking, theres f all reason toāā haha
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but i must have the open trait, i enjoy when i can agree with someone. Though i hate when i feel like the other person only wants to score points or pick apart my posts without understanding the point or context. This would wind me up even more than someone who had opposing views to me but had the intentions to help me understand their view
Thereās no point.
People have made up their minds.
Unless there is a therapist involved it will just be an argument.
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I think itās positive to challenge peoples view. I believe everything happens for a reason. So no matter what you say just let it be.
Like whispering words of wisdom, challenging peopleās view are words of wisdom from that come from a personal perspective.
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Online is not set up for proper debating. People are either trolling or looking for a laugh or a quick insult. Attention spans are very short.
I was on the debate team in university. There was two teams of five people. The professor would present a topic. Each team had 10 minutes. One team will argue for the topic, the other team will argue against the topic. Then the team that argued for the topic will argue against the topic, and the team that argued against the topic will argue for the topic.
You must stay on the topic. You cannot attack the person (ad hominem).
Sad to say, but universities seem to no longer be the bastions of the free exchange of ideas.
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For thousands of years, wise people have observed that wicked people do not take criticism well.
Righteous, wise people, on the other hand, often listen to opposing views with some appreciation.
People no longer like hearing opposing views because those people have become wicked. Since ancient times, even good kings knew they needed criticism, of sorts.
I do not feel extremely safe strongly criticizing someone online; but, some people pick fights that could escalate legally. One should be careful.
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And, you gave a link to a remake of āLet It Be,ā by the Beatles.
Iāve liked that song for a long time. My motherās first birth name is Rosemary, and talk of āMother Maryā sometimes reminds me of her.
Some people hate wisdom, though.
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Rosemary is a lovely name. Glad you like the link
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Wow. Bowens has been working on a reply for a while.
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Iām just getting up and my brain is about 50% so you will have to excuse me while I try to get the point of your post.
Very few people take criticism well. Nobody likes to be wrong. All you have to do is look at the political landscape. (not to bring up politics, but it was a good example). I am guilty of it myself.
As far as the topic at hand. I believe that even well meaning people can become too obsessed with their roles as protectors and miss the larger point of whatever venue they are guarding. Sometimes you cant see the trees through the forest, as they say.
I think its ok to question and to try to get rules changed, but it is generally not ok to violate those that are in place and say youāre doing it because you donāt agree with them.
This applies in the real world , as well. For example, if the speed limit is 55 and you decide to go 75 because you donāt think its right. You are in the wrong and should expect a fine and or to have your license suspended, or whatever. The proper route would be to try to have the law changed. You canāt blame a police officer for enforcing what is on the books.
On the other hand, if a police officer charges you with going 75 when going 60, then you challenge that finding in court.
No system is perfect. There are always going to be issues. I think what needs to be done is try to follow the proper channels to make things as āperfectā as you can.
Of course, then there is also the idea that one persons idea of perfection is different from the others. I guess you need to try to perfect things that help and protect the majority of the population the most.
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And, as described by ancient wisdom, that means there are very few righteous, wise people, these days. Period.
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absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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I understand what you are saying, but by placing that āperiodā on the end of your post, you yourself, just like I am sometimes guilty of, have just made an absolute statement and are not willing to take criticism of your thoughts. 
Its the very thing being criticized by your own statements.
I donāt blame you for it, but Its human nature to a certain degree.
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No, you are wrong. I accept your criticism that you think I am wrong without expressing anger about you being wrong; but, I was expressing an absolute truth about humanity that has been known for thousands of years. I take your criticism, and disagree with it. See how that works?
I donāt buy for a minute that you are not perturbed at the challenge. The āsee how that works?ā makes it pretty evident.
Online is a whole dynamic that you have to be careful with.
Is this philosophical? Listen to this.
If someone gets you in a headlock and you tell them to f off, are you the abuser for using that word and is that a landscape which provides the actual abuser a way to abuse you and get away with it through reverse psychology?
Just a thought
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I kind of think to challenge somebodyās views that are negative towards themselves would be helpful maybe. But if somebody is positive about their views then I just let them enjoy their views. But if they are negative with their views and feel bad because of their views about themselves. Then I would try to help them change their view about themselves if I could.
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