are we just fertilizer? it is making me depressed and my head is sort of stuck on this,
it keeps coming into my head
No. We are the roses among the weeds!
no, fertilizers canāt use forumsā¦
at the end of the day we are just fertilizer
f e r t i l i z e r
we live and then die and ā ā ā ā whats the point
so iām going to be a big pile of manure
You are 100% human, not plant food!
and then i die and ā ā ā ā
We all die one day. I know thatās depressing, but I like to think of it like this: my body helps the planet when Iām buried. It nourishes everything until there is nothing left to give. To me, thatās beautiful, but Iām also an organ donor for the same reasons. I know thatās not a comfort for everyone, and Iām sorry itās so upsetting for you. It can be hard to get over the idea of death and concerns about meaningfulness of oneās life.
yeah but its ā ā ā ā ā ā ā depressing
all i will be remembered for is a pile of ā ā ā ā
Who knows if we die.
I doubt that is true. You will be remembered as a person, not a pile of crap.
i wont be remembered i will be forgotten very quickly
Nobody can disprove or prove the existence of the afterlife. Not believing in it is the same as believing in it. Itās a faith based decision.
If it makes you feel better then believe in it. Personally Iām open minded about it. Iām 50/50 about it.
i dont understand this
I.e. itās a personal decision.
Nobody can say they believe in it because they have absolute proof that it exists.
Likewise nobody can say they have proof that it doesnāt exist.
who cares with what people believe in anyway
most people talk absolute ā ā ā ā anyway
and who cares about proof? who needs proof anyway?
do you need to prove absolutely everything you do? i dont think so so why does everybody need everything to be proven?
i think people are scared of the unknown and llok at science to explain everything when science isnt the truth
science is very boring and it doesnt ask the most important questions of life, not saying it doesnt help but it is not the ultimate answer to everything
L+D=F what about L+D=NL
fertilizer is the easy way to explain it, its the simple persons answer, an answer for the ignorant, stubborn, and someone whos very closed minded, no imagination, they dont look beyond what is in front of them, fail to see the other side a bit like a one sided coin unfeeling, unsympathetic, dire.
sorry for the rant but
why does it need to be the end?
http://readersupportednews.org//index.php?id=7170&option=com_content&task=view
" In one of his books Mindsight, Dr. Ring investigated 31 blind people who had near-death-experiences and or out-of-body experiences. 80% of the respondents claimed that they were able to see when out of their bodies, even those who were congenitally blind (blind from birth). Congenitally blind people donāt even have a concept of sight; they only dream in audio."
āSecond, Near Death Experiencers report finding their consciousness expanding outside the boundaries of their bodies. They say that the feeling is like taking off a tight shoe or an uncomfortable suit of armor. They report that this experience is much more real than waking reality.ā
āThousands of documented cases prove that NDErs can see and report accurately on what happened to their bodies, in or out of the hospital, when they were clinically dead, with no brain waves and in cardiac arrest.ā
āThis case cannot be explained by temporal-lobe seizure activity, because brain waves were continuously monitored. It cannot be explained by reconstruction based on overheard conversations during the operation, because the molded speakers in her ears blocked out any possible hearing, and her brainstem responses showed absolutely no response to auditory stimulation. It cannot be explained by reconstruction based on observations before and after she was anesthetized, because she accurately described people, equipment, and events that were not observable to her either before or after the procedure.ā
Whew. Okay the article is really long and Iām too tired at the moment to keep reading/pasting more.
Science that denies an afterlife is not really being āmeanā as much as it is people are just doing what they think is right.
Weāre not fertilizer. I mean, look at what has happened with Barbara Streisand cloning her dead dog. None of the dogs have the original dogās personality or other defining characteristics that could convince her (or havenāt convinced her as of yet).
I know if I cloned my dog, there would be no likeness to the original and I would not be fooled. I would know itās not him.
Identical twins also tend not to be identical despite having the āsame genesā.
Anyway, most people are just doing what they think is right. That includes people who donāt believe in an afterlife because they think it equates to irresponsibility to this life/world. Though from what Iāve seen it seems to fuel the opposite in behaviorā¦ Lots of anxiety and restlessness from listening to that side for a long time.
https://www.quora.com/Is-death-a-curse-or-a-blessing
"Consciousness precedes, is more primary than and animates matter, space and timeā
thankyou again @Genbu i really appreciate you taking the time to research this and write this very kind response, you must be a very caring person.
i think this is very interesting indeed and i suppose the next question ahs to be about what happens after near death experiences but i guess it could never be answered as no one person has ever came back from the dead to tell the tale.
whos to say what is right and wrong anyway i suppose
Even if someone came back there would be no proof.
you cant come back from the dead anyway but i imagine that if someone did come back from the dead no-one would believe him and say he is crazy and that he wasnt dead in the first place, call him a liar and ā ā ā ā
I try.
Itās a big part of the reason I donāt sleep well anymore lol.
āDespite the fact that most scientists will tell you there is absolutely no proof for telepathy and or telekinesis, there are now hundreds of studies proving consistently and scientifically over the past three decades that the human āmindā can influence random number generators.
http://www.tillerfoundation.comā
Uh-oh! LOL
āIn addition, proving that higher states of consciousness, including NDEās, can be accessed chemically and biologically does not prove that those states (a higher dimension) cannot independently exist without a biological connection. This real and dramatic transformation only comes when one is actually approaching death.ā
āFourth, the vast majority of NDErs experience a dramatic shift in their behavior, personalities and beliefs. No other human experience of any kind causes such a dramatic and permanent transformation. As an example, a Mafia hit man, who had killed seven people previously, now only gives speeches about his NDE. When in his back yard, he tries very hard to avoid stepping on ants. Once we have a direct experience of the ONEness of Life, there is no longer any fear of being alone or separate or dying.ā