As my medication helps me at times, it seems like nobody or any existence is doing anything to me or affecting me in any way. This website has been the most open minded as ever about schizophrenia, but I mostly see people proving it to be done by a human or some existence. Am I the only one that says it is possible for schizophrenia to be caused by no person or existence in any way and is a problem with the body causing these thoughts, voices, beliefs, feelings visions etc. Is it impossible for Schizophrenia to be from no one or existence or anything but something wrong with or within the body.
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If you mean the brain when you say body then I totally agree with you. Nothing super natural here.
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I believe it’s all from a malfunctioning mind
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I too belive the hallucinations and delusions are misfires in the brain. Brain not working correctly.
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It would be easy to argue that sz is the result of chemical imbalances in both the mind and body. It’s like the “nature vs nurture” debate going on in academia. Some say that sz comes from problems in the environment. Others say it is a chemical imbalance. Personally, I believe both cause sz. The way I heard it put best is “genetics loads the gun, and the environment pulls the trigger”.
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Yeah where does the mind end the body begins. They are both interlinked. I think that sz is charecterised largely by an inability to keep thought under control , i think that most people with schiz has this problem , and a persons physical brain is responsible for this. This issue is not a sympthom of the mind but a sympthom of the brain.
There is also established evidence that sz is degenerative if a person does not treat ongoing psychosis. Loss of grey matter , etc , links to gluten sensitivity , people have hypotecised (spelling) that there could be an autoimmune part in all this
I think schizophrenia and the treatment methods available for it show nicely how the mind and the brain are related. We see that medication working on the brain greatly influences the disturbed mind, yet we also see that therapies such as CBT and social interventions, which work on the mind, can be effective. To me as a naturalist it seems clear that the mind is realized in a great part by the mechanics of the brain. Yet it is not merely a bottom-up causality that is at play here. It is not uncommon in nature that higher-order structures constrain the activity at a lower-order. As such, it is quite conceivable that the activity of the (conscious) mind, that is also partially realized by the environment, can influence or constrain the activity at the lower level of the brain. Some have appealed to the concept of circular causality to account for both a top-down and a bottom-up causal influence that create the mind. This is controversial, yet what seems clear to me is that schizophrenia is primarily a distortion of the mind - if my mind wasn’t troubled I wouldn’t care about my brain. Obviously, since the two are interrelated it is very likely that brain-trouble will lead to mind-trouble. But it seems clear to me that the mind is what has primacy, which is reflected by current practice of diagnosis and evaluation of recovery and quality of life. Given the factors that help realize the mind, it seems clear to me that treatment should focus on both lower-level (meds) and higher-level (therapies), which fortunately seems to be the consensus anyways.
Yeah no doubt there are 2 parts to the approach. I’ve yet to meet a schiz though that didn’t have a problem with the construction and operation of thought. Its worth to note that this sympthom overlaps with sympthoms from other conditions ; OCD , GAD for example, though , in sz these symptoms seem to have a toxicity that causes chronic disability in the shape of hallucinations.