i think it is clear that schizophrenia people like us all have some cognitive deficits but arethere any proof that psychiatric drugs help improve the cognition because imo if a healthy person who take the psychiatric drug , these drugs would harm his/her cognitive ability and mostly cause a decline in long term, if that’s the case , how ‘s psychiatric drugs suppose to help improve a patient ‘s cognitive ability? isn’t not making any sense? or is the delusion is irrelevant to the cognitive ability itself? any one got any ideas?i have these kind of doubts because in my country we always have a belief in people’s minds that these drugs are actually harmful to our brains and we should avoid to take them.
I think according to the article in this post
Cognitive decline happens with or without meds.
But as psychosis fries your brain I imagine (just my opinion) that it’s worse without meds.
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Cognition is not just a stable trait, it is also state-dependent. There are plenty of studies showing a negative correlation between symptom levels and cognitive performance.
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I don’t know about stats but the meds help me focus when I sit down to write but sometimes my cognition has been blocked and I have to fight thru it to do my works.
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if psy drugs makes us less delusional then we are supposed to have better cognition but the psy drugs do not improve a person’s cognitive abiltity , right? instead they shrink our brain aren’t they? so why a decline of our cognitive ability by the meds would make us less delusional, isn’t it contradicting? or is it the meds actually help a person’s cognition instead of making it worse? but i rmbthere is a reserach saying that the longer time people on meds the lower the cognition score these people score.
Cherry picking studies isn’t going to help you figure this out, @schizophrenick. If you’re serious about reading up on the science behind this, you need to start with the most recent meta-analyses and review articles. Regular studies like the one you posted are really only relevant after you’ve read and compared all the relevant meta-analyses and reviews. And that means getting access to the full papers and really comprehending them, not just reading the abstracts.
The short version is this: Reduced brain size does not necessarily mean reduced brain function (it could be a healthy reorganization), and at any rate, the effect size is small. The meds do seem to improve cognition in the short term. The long-term effect is, as it always is, less studied, but we can assume the effect is small here as well.
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As that article involves psychiatrists from Finland which is known for the open dialogue approach . I googled “open dialogue” and one of the article authors’ names.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&ei=os6UXe7tHbCk1fAP9buOoAc&q="Riikki+Marttila"+"open+dialogue"&oq="Riikki+Marttila"+"open+dialogue"&gs_l=psy-ab.12...44932.105297..109370...2.0..0.509.3862.20j13j1j5-1…0…1…gws-wiz…0i273j0j0i67j0i10j0i30j0i5i30j33i160j0i19j0i22i30i19j0i13i30i19j0i13i30j33i21.1nPDJ3wsKic&ved=0ahUKEwjuxvvv_f3kAhUwUhUIHfWdA3QQ4dUDCAo
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so it may be a biased study towards non-medical approach
The subject is in the intersection of pharmacology, medicine and psychology, so a purely medical approach would be just as biased as another approach. I would also be careful about judging a study’s value on the merits of the authors’ previous research. But that is a single, regular study, and a naturalistic one at that, which basically limits its value for a normal guy trying to figure out this very general and much-researched subject to nothing at all.
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