"And the loser now, will be later to win". Bob Dylan

Now that’s weird sentence (ungrammatical) but it simply means things change. And someone who is doing bad NOW sometimes will do good LATER. And the converse is true too.

On these forums we see each others lives, good and bad. But we are only seeing a slice of each others lives. Obviously we can’t see the future. But people come and go on here. The lives we see of each other for a few months (or in my case several years) does not define us.

The reason I’m saying this is because of what a newcomer posted last night about her father. I hope she doesn’t mind me using her father as an example, I certainly do not mean any disrespect. But she said he functioned fine for 38 years but he recently relapsed. And it got me worrying and wondering: I’ve been out of the hospital for 25 years. Call it fear, call it, being realistic, call it selfish but I know I could still relapse. I’ve always known this.

People think I’m doing fine. And I really am doing fine in a lot of ways. But you’re only seeing a slice of my life. I’ve been through some BAD times where I was doing worse than many people. Drug addiction almost took me out. And I have to fight this disease on a daily basis just like anyone else. Right now I think I see a train wreck coming but I’m not really sure. I will just keep plugging along and hope I’m wrong.

But it’s the same with you guys too. We are only seeing a PERIOD of your life on here. You may be doing bad now but later you may make great strides like I’ve seen many times. “The loser now, will be later to win”. You know what I mean now, right?

People on here move on and do good…or bad… And occasionally they will be gone a long time only to come back after getting a job or a boyfriend or girlfriend. This is a two dimensional board. Not everybodies present state is indicative of whole life. Enough of this. I have to go watch the “Fresh Prince of Bel Air” now.
Peace out.


Come gather ’round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’ or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who that it’s namin’
For the loser now will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside and it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is rapidly agin’
Please get out of the new one if you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin’
And the first one now will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’

Copyright © 1963, 1964 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1991, 1992 by Special Rider Music

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Bobby is talking about the first becoming last and the last becoming first.

Demons are well versed and can recite the entire thing from memory.

He wasn’t lying at all in his interview “i made a deal with it.” “The chief commander.” “And in the world we can’t see.” It was true those things.