Alternative medicine kills

I find it ironic that proponents of alternative medicine often accuse their critics (including yours truly) of not caring about patients. They try to take the moral high ground, claiming they are just trying to help people anyway they can.

Of course, this entirely misses the point of the criticism (which is either deliberate or convenient). Proponents of science-based medicine want one thing – the best chance that our treatments are safe and effective. Determining whether a treatment or any medical intervention has more benefit than risk can be very tricky – much more tricky than most non-experts realize. That is precisely why we need the best science available to help us make these critical determinations.

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/alternative-medicine-kills/

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i love my meds, what are you talking about

It killed Steve Jobs.

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did you get away with it

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It is false!
Saying that alternative medicine kills is like saying that placebo kills. :slight_smile:

Only if you take it instead?

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Giving a cancer patient placebos in place of viable treatments for cancer is an excellent example of how placebos can kill.

Very good point in the above article about magical thinking.

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It does if you do it instead of medical treatment.

I mean, if you want to do reiki and a special diet for your cancer, that’s fine, so long as you also do the reccomended treatment - surgery, radiotherapy, immunotherapy, chemotherapy etc.

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Just eat poison ivy. It will cure all your problems. It’s a PLANT!

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It was a joke… Anyways cancer killed him and not the placebo! :slight_smile:

I have a former friend occasionally using these boards who was very stable on meds and then who switched to alternative meds. Most of my former friend is gone, now there’s some whacked out zombie-like creature that shows up here occasionally using his account instead. Believe me, it’s not a joke. Alternative medicine can destroy years of recovery for schizophrenics.

Again? Alternative ‘medicines’ are mostly harmless but, of course, if you don’t take the real medicines, you’ll not get better.

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Yeah. And if you stay psychotic long enough you can change your brain pathways enough to hamper or prevent recovery. That’s why early psychosis treatment is associated with the best outcomes.

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This is a very tough thing because how do you maintain autonomy and control over your medical decisions if your brain isn’t working right but to you it seems like it is. I’m looking into a psychiatric advance directive. But mostly I don’t trust “the system” to give a sh*t about my brain if I lose it.

In practice, yes, alternative medicine kills,
if you take it seriously.
That is, if a person believes alternative medicine can help him,
it may cause him/her to use it instead of traditional medicine,
with very bad results.

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A true fanboy.

Well prove it over placebo and saying supplements aren’t damaging is rubbish scientifically! Most vitamins will do damage in large doses so why not other supplements.

You’ve a poorly thought out arguement and I don’t often agree with the man but Firemonkey is on the money.

Stop trying your religious trolling and get some sense into you!

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