Well, I’m not saying that you guys don’t have it rough. But deficit schizophrenia is a really bad condition to have. And I am surprised that so few visitors of this forum have stated that they have it.
Maybe folk with deficit SZ are less likely to be able to seek out an online community like this?
I admit, there’s not much fun in this forum (joke), but currently I am limited in my options of spending my abundant free time. Of course there is such thing as deficit schizophrenia, otherwise why would this notion have emerged?
My psychotic break lasted about 6 weeks. Then I was promptly put on a treatment which dealed with my positive symptoms successfully. Since then I haven’t relapsed. Maybe others have avoided treatment for years, but it’s really not my case. Yet I still struggle with bad negative symptoms (not only anhedonia, but also avolition, poverty of thought, blunted affect).
Yes, I suspect that’s the case Jimbob …
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That’s not deficit schizophrenia. We all have different symptoms but fall under the catergory of schizophrenia. If ur like me the anhedonia is hard af to deal with. I think people like us dont have the desire to use a forum. I will fizzle out of this forum within a year I’m guessing. Can’t relate much, plus my life is too negative to be recovery-oriented
https://www.google.com/search?q=deficit+schizophrenia
Deficit schizophrenia exists.
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That’s non-official and according to their guidelines most of us have it.
You’re welcome to disagree with the validity, but stating that it doesn’t exist is factually inaccurate.
well, the thing is, u have to question what factual really means. Considering there are theories that schizophrenia is different disorders, and that sub-types are no longer used. I see the validity of one saying i have these “deficit” symptoms, to say they have “deficit schizophrenia” isn’t in line with psychiatry tho. people have different symptoms, noone has religious-type schizophrenia due to delusions being primarily about a religion.
All my delusions are religious based…thankfully its heathen religions and my critical thinking can counter most of them…but if you asked me a year ago…I would probably give you a long speel about how I was a ■■■■■■■ child of Odin…and how ripping out my eyes would help me not hinder me…
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Irony 
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Not ironic…just sad…but even as a heathen I wanted to get rid of religion and give the torch of humanity to scientists…
There’s plenty of psychiatry behind it. Note all the psychiatric research that comes up on a simple search of the term.
The entire purpose of the construct is to identify and treat people whose symptoms tend to be mainly negative, and isolate the processes involved, rather than continuing to lose those people in the vast population who have mainly positive symptoms or a more even mix of both. It’s not just a matter of anhedonia.
Like I said, if you don’t find this classification worthwhile, that’s fine. But please stop making statements like “there’s no such thing as deficit schizophrenia.”
Secular ■■■■■■■ Humanism Folks. People are Awesome & The Best Thing Ever. I am biased, I happen to be one. You are both Awesome and I love you (in a general sorta way, let’s not get weird).
Where does one draw the line? At severe avolotion, cuz there are people who can’t really shower but still find things enjoyable. I honestly do consider myself having “deficit schizophrenia”. But to me severe anhedonia is the crux of the problem.
Draw it wherever it makes sense to you. Just avoid statements like “it doesn’t exist” or “there’s no such thing.”
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Btw @Andrey many people with sz report severe anhedonia. I read that in a textbook, if that makes u feel any better.
I had my first episode around 199/97, I was hospitalized for 6 months. I went for years with little to no symptoms, but then 2007 I had a relapse, I didn’t need to be hospitalized (one main reason didn’t have heath care then) but I saw my Psychiatrist once a week and we played around a lot with medication changes. Just because you haven’t had one yet, doesn’t mean you’re immune to having one. You’ve just been given a good treatment plan.
A relapse can happen at any time, under any circumstance. Mine happened be stress related due to my hectic working conditions. I’ve managed to control most of my symptoms but periodically they show up in strong bouts, like I have strong anxiety/paranoia today…and I keep hearing my cell phone ring but it doesn’t.
While there is information about deficit on the web I don’t think it’s a real part of Schizophrenia. I think it’s a dangerous theory because people can believe they’re immune to relapses. That they had one psychotic break and that is all they’re ever going to have. I don’t believe that can be true. Until there is a cure for Schizophrenia, there will always be a chance for someone with the disorder to have a relapse. Even if they’re successful with a certain amount medication and treatment. Sometimes your body can become too use the dosage or pill you’re on and you may need change it because more symptoms are showing up.
I’m sorry for not agreeing with you but I am happy you haven’t had a relapse occur yet. But just keep in mind that you aren’t immune to a relapse affecting you.
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Search them on google, very few of them are for negatives exclusively.
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I don’t consider myself immune to relapse. I just repeated here what I had read somewhere (don’t remember the article) - that a bunch of deficit schizophrenics were monitored for 20 years and the risk of relapse among them was really really low.
I still take my AP religiously and see my pdoc every 3 months or so. I’m not irresponsible 