I’m curious to know if I have had a switch of symptoms to this kind of schizophrenia
I doubt there are hebephrenics here, usually they have no insight about being sz and they are very disorganized.
Sz’rs sure spend a huge amount of time analyzing their symptoms.
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I think my sister was this
My symptoms changed to much more similar to hers after she died
She had 12 yrs unremitting episode and was hit by a car
You sound like my mum telling me to stop navel gazing
Do you actually do that?
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Staring at ships?
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Psychiatrists don’t use this diagnosis anymore. It is outmoded.
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It’s still in the ICD-10 but it seems that it will be removed in the 11.
http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd10/browse/2016/en#/F20.1
http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd11/browse/l-m/en#/http%3A%2F%2Fid.who.int%2Ficd%2Fentity%2F1683919430
Interesting, but obviously in reality hebephrenia does still exist, even if it is just known as schizophrenia with predominantly severe disorganisation
Was originally DXed as SZ, ‘disorganized type’. While I’m familiar with the term ‘hebephrenic’, it’s never been used by any of my docs. I’ve recovered enough that my DX has slid towards ‘paranoid SZ’ as my symptoms are managed well enough now that I don’t slide into catatonia any longer.
Time spent shopping the Net for diagnoses is time not spent recovering and a misdirection of your effort.
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Are these people hebephrenic?
Interesting @shutterbug. Do the meds help with the disorganized symptoms such as thought disorder (thought blocking, inability to focus on one thing etc)?
Net = Internet
There’s no perfect medication, there’s only “good enough”. You’ll have to get used to making up the difference.
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@Indecisive: Apologies if I’m sounding like a jerk. I remember being where you are now. I know how limited your energy and motivation to deal with things is. Please be careful to budget the few resources you have towards achieving positive outcomes.
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@shutterbug I think you over focus on your own experience.
There are loads of cases that just making an effort is not enough.
I do agree that it’s worth making an effort to achieve a good outcome but that doesn’t guarantee success,
in many cases it’s not enough.
I am making every effort, I may or may not succeed, but I am not optimistic unless breakthroughs are
made in medicine and in society in general.
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@shutterbug, this is the same with me. I’m not experiencing any delusions or hallucinatioms, but I just feel like I’m becoming distanced from my mind. My cognition is also becoming awful and I find it difficult to speak. They still say I need to attend the ‘at risk’ clinic but I fear that if I am developing schizophrenia, then I’m destined to get the disorganized type because of the incredibly slow onset and the lack of delusions etc… I’m in such a pickle…
The neuropsychologist said that my assessment was similar to that of a schizophrenia sufferer; I had severe impairments in attention verbal memory or something. Yet I have absolutely full insight, so what I’m going through must be pretty atypical?
I think what he is saying Erez is let the Docs do their job. Overthinking “google” and not actually knowing psychiatry probably wont get you any good results.
I put all my effort into getting better. I feel like ■■■■ today though. im pretty sure its my usual symptom causing it. When i go see my doc in 2 days time ill let her know. Im not excited to see my doc.
I dont understand why people are so proud to have MI. THe world is a great place if you at peace. As consumed as we may be disabled by our MI , we should be focusing our energy on the positives of trying to live normal, not getting reminded of what we are.
Im just a casual passing stroller <3
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Also, by mere coincidence, I’ve been supplementing with NAC, fish oils and sarcosine now for about three years - I started them when I was healthy and never knew anything about schizophrenia. Now I’ve learned that they all can be add-on treatments…
Maybe they’re actually causing my issues or have modified the onset of the disease in some way?
I’m on your side 
that is great u did that.
I was just saying my 2c. There are symptoms for everything I seem to do and if I had to find out why when and how i wouldn’t be on the road to a better end.
That is just me 
Hugz
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