We are losing a generation of young people to phentanyl

That’s sad. I dont know about phentanyl…don’t know anyone who uses it.

I did know a girl who was hooked on another medical opioid after surgery (i think oxycontin). We were in the ward together.

The same day…I ran off from the ward in lunacy because of benzo withdrawal. Was lost for a day. When I returned, she was in hospital. She had jumped off the building because she felt horrid from oxycontin withdrawal. She survived, but returned in a wheelchair. The dark side of western medicine.

It is partly choice. But some are more sensitive to addiction/withdrawal than others.

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My mother takes prescription opioids for a chronic pain condition that causes ulcers in her bladder. Thanks to all the bipartisan support against opioids, her and people like her are finding it harder and harder to get the medication that lets her function on a daily basis. Some of them commit suicide with no end in sight to the pain. There are two sides to every story.

Fentanyl itself isn’t really prescribed a lot but things like Oxycontin are. I know it’s fun to jump on the “pain killers bad” bandwagon but imagine being in horrible mind numbing pain every day and having a way out via pain meds, but that way out is less and less accessible each day thanks to people who don’t understand the problem.

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My boyfriend was on morphine for ten years or more but his dr prescribed it got back pain and now he will be on it or something similar for back pain again.

He is angry with out it because of pain.

I think it should be legal too and prescribed by dr for those who need it.
That way be getting the good stuff that’s not mixed with weird sh. It and right dose so no od.

It’s cruel kinda to let someone be in agony and not try to help take away their suffering and agony.

I know drugs can cause crime and drama but it can probably be handled in such a way where it doesn’t.

If I ever am in pain I hope I’m given the best pain medication ever to help me.

I’m on imovane /zoplicone now.
Not all drs prescribe that either.
I take it for my insomnia bug my dr only wants me taking half a tablet and to be careful not to become addicted instead of dependent.

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I think people just want to feel good. That’s the heart of the matter. How do we make ourselves feel better? People are driven towards this goal. But our culture is very competitive. We need better school and work environments, so people make better choices.

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You’re lucky then

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I remember two videos that might be helpful on addiction and life happiness I found on you-tube:
How to Be Happy, Reverse Bucket Lists, The Four False Idols, and More — Arthur C. Brooks

Controlling Your Dopamine For Motivation, Focus & Satisfaction | Huberman Lab Podcast #39

On the second video I still remember Huberman talking about how MPTP paralyzed people by destroying their dopamine producing organs. At this point you could not pay me to take a drug that isn’t going to save my life outright.

I am lucky I have never done any drugs in my life, I would probably be dead now if I did. I tend to put drugs somewhere around radiation poisoning on my ‘how I do not want to die’ list.

I really do not think drugs should be in a person’s body unless absolutely necessary (legal or not). But for an addict I understand it is not so much of a choice, as a different struggle entirely.

Right now I am concerned about how the drug trade in the west is going to end. What I learned about the drug trade is rumor level stuff, so take it with a grain of salt, but here is what I pieced together:

Drug proliferation to the best of my knowledge did not really start until military units were sent out with powerful pain killers during WW1 and brought back a population market of potential addicts. The time period where illegal street drugs became a family household name, is relatively small compared to the overall history of modern nations.

During the WW2 era the Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek would proliferate drugs into Chinese society in order to fund his war aims to take over mainland china from the CCP. After WW2 the ‘western actors’ would copy this strategy on both a domestic and global level to help reign in funding for their own war efforts in Vietnam among others, aimed at the defeat and isolation of the USSR during the cold war.

Since then it has become it’s own industry as a aims of making profits on the international mob. The Mexican cartels (trafficking in the USA) are just a small cog in a much larger machine. I know that it could all be ended very quickly by the people in power here in the west if they choose to do so. And since they have not, then I am inclined to think that they must profit from the drug trade, if merely indirectly.

The reason I am concerned with how it is going to end is because of what the CCP did to end it’s own drug epidemic through the use of brutality. There must be way better ways to end a drug epidemic than that, but so far I have not seen any real answers to this mess from anyone in power so far. Drug proliferation in a productive society cannot persist, and as the death count rises I wonder how this is going to change.

I’m like that. I don’t get a buzz from alcohol either. I just get sick. There is the rare occasion where I’ll respond to drugs normally but it’s only happened a few times.

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They’ve been around a little longer than that.

A Century of American Narcotic Policy - Treating Drug Problems - NCBI Bookshelf.

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pain killers for pain only are allright in my optics but we must do our best to prevent the drug lords from destributing ther fentanyl in mixtures of marihuana ecstasy and other milder drugs.
We are loosing a generation to mixtures of fentanyl with milder drugs.
I’ve never done drugs but I was an alcoholic 21 years back in time and I consider drug addiction to be an illness just like alcoholism.
If you can take fentanyl and walk happy away and never return then happy you cause most cannot.

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My dr prescribed me codeine, he wanted to prescribe me morphine but i said no. I had surgery. Even low dose codeine made me high more than weed, i was euphoric dancing all night to music and talking to ppl a lot, I hate dancing usually. I wasn’t myself on it. Morphine is much stronger. I only took codeine a few days then threw it in the garbage i was scared of getting addicted as it made me very happy, my dr told me i am weird as everybody likes to get high and be euphoric and happy

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I totally agree with you Aziz I don’t like getting high either. But I love the way my Clopixol get me low relaxed and somehow chemical lobotomized.
I’m not making any joke Aziz and this is not ironic. I really like my relaxed quietness and empty headed peacefulness. The very uppeset of getting high on drugs or alcohol.

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You’d be grateful if they slipped u a shot of it on yr deathbed….

Likely not. I’d prefer to be aware enough to say goodbye to folks.

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Good on ya! For throwing the drug away. When I had my C-section with my son the doctor prescribed me Percocet but I didn’t fill the Rx. I just took extra strength Tylenol.

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It’s a deceptive to only think the drug addicts as some crazy person down on the corner, when it could be anybody regardless of economic status.

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Why would anyone celebrate Fentanyl like that? Sad :disappointed:

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I agree. I think it’s ironic/gen alpha lol

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I saw in the news there is a new drug thats killing users thats 25x stronger than Fentanyl.

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Who is distributing that? Doesnt make sense to kill your customers.

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