SZ described as a selfdisorder (video)

The video describes SZ as a selfdisorder. To take an example - sometimes i experience that my thoughts are disturbed by a small, old and annoying man wearing a panamahat. This man interrupts my basic sense of self, and this is a typical sign of schizophrenia, neurotypicals would never have these kind of troubles, for them being a self is never questioned.

Self-disorders in schizophrenia - YouTube

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That makes no sense to me at all, although I didn’t watch the video

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You’re saying your sense of self is overcome by believing that you are instead some sort of man with a Panama hat on? Like coco, I don’t understand what you’re saying

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@bluebutterfly thanks for that video, i watched it all and i can relate, yes, i definitely come into this category

It is definitely mostly a health problem. By correcting problems and deficiencies, you can greatly reduce your symptoms.

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@devra i wish i knew how to improve but been bad mentally since teenage years and im getting worse with age unfortunately

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Great you can relate @Ducky but sad you experience it is getting worse

It’s probably me who explains it too complicated @FreeLunch @CoCo but here is what chat gpt says about the phenomenon

A self-disorder, also known as ipseity disturbance, is a psychological phenomenon that occurs in people with schizophrenia spectrum disorders such as schizophrenia itself as well as schizotypal personality disorder 1. It is characterized by the disruption or diminishing of a person’s minimal self, which is the fundamental sense that one’s experiences are truly one’s own 1. People with self-disorder feel that their internal experiences are actually external; for example, they may experience their own thoughts as coming from outside themselves, whether in the form of true auditory hallucinations or merely as a vague sense that their thoughts do not belong to them 1. The concept is associated with the theoretical approach to psychology known as phenomenology 1. The presence or absence of self-disorders has been used to distinguish schizophrenia spectrum disorders from other psychotic disorders, bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and autism spectrum disorder 1. Detecting self-disorders may also be useful for early intervention in psychosis, since they occur in the prodrome of schizophrenia prior to the emergence of psychotic symptoms 1.

It’s more like my thoughts seem alien to me, and that is exactly what this is about. Neurotypicals have a natural sense of their own thoughts belonging to them, but in schizophrenia you can have symptoms like thought intrusion where something alien pervades your mind, or passivity phenomenon where you to some degree don’t feel like yourself but rather like someone else. Hearing voices is also an example of something foreign entering your mind.

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My self is shattered. Like a broken glass. I can feel it in my brain, my brain feels cracked.

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I have intrusive thoughts, and my own
But it is all controlled seemingly by my voices

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Thanks for the explanation. I don’t think I have that. It sounds hard to deal with.

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Sorry to hear @Speedy , i can relate. When i’m having a panic attack my self is shattered to pieces.
Probably not @CoCo i noticed on different occasions when i have presented this idea that some with schizophrenia simply don’t recognize it, but those who have it, immediately recognize it

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