Schizophrenia and IQ

I’ve done some mensa tests, and while not a real IQ test, it’s a good baseline on how well it would go I feel like. I score in the 80s regularly. But really, I’m starting to feel like the whole IQ thing is nonsense as it’s only a standardized test indicative of certain intelligences. It does not encompass literary intelligence very well, nor does it with emotional intelligence.

Maybe I’m just trying to make myself feel better because I scored so low in those challenges, but IQ is a precarious road to go down because it quantifies our intellectual prowess. And if you want to be really successful, develop grit. Grit will take you farther than a high IQ will by itself with bad conscientiousness.

IQ is just a way of trying to be objectively certain of something when there is a very broad range of uncertainty in what your intelligence could be. If you want to have a high IQ but have no practical way of demonstrating intelligence thats fine, but simply have an idea of who you are and what youre like and be secure with yourself

For what it’s worth I’m not very intelligent…but not giving up has allowed me to pursue passions that would have otherwise been off limits.

I can’t win against a smart person in a argument but I can do the things I love no matter what it takes :grin:

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You sound intelligent to me.

I’m probably an absolute moron.

come on buddy

lets have positive self talk

im not positive either but im antinegative

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Your just down on yourself bro… Your not dumb and it’s not super important if you can enjoy your life man.

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High iq doesn’t always equal being ridiculously rich.:yum:

Tesla was apparently really poor.

Several other geniuses I heard of were soooo poor.

Wonder why they couldn’t get money for themselves despite being brilliant in their iq.

Some of them struggled even with paying basics .

I spoke three languages when I was four so I can’t have been a simpleton then but I suffered a lot in life and became a bit “dumb” in a way.:crazy_face::joy:

Bloody sucks but i certainly ain’t the brightest or sharpest tool in the shed it seems.

I can’t defend myself either.
I turn the other cheek and avoid year after year n keep getting walked over disrespected n hated .

I want to be a mathematician and comedian.both!:slightly_smiling_face::heart::slightly_smiling_face:

But I can’t work at all now.struggle just to cope … shower etc

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i have heard that us with sz have a whole lot to deal with and so those tests are not actually accurate at all. instead we deserve many points for working it all out… judy

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This doesn’t matter to my employer. Either I produce or I don’t get paid.

I think that most people with sz who are unemployed don’t even realise that the iq goes down because in casual day to day life it doesn’t makes a difference. But if you go to work and realise that you struggle every day, the impact is quite drastic.

You can not just say everything is fine.

Maybe I should have put this on that thread of very common posts on this forum.

  1. The use of illicit street drugs increases the risk of developing schizophrenia:

Causes - Schizophrenia - NHS.

"Studies have shown using drugs, particularly cannabis, cocaine, LSD or amphetamines, can increase the risk of developing schizophrenia, psychosis or a similar illness.

It is not clear if using drugs directly causes symptoms in people who are susceptible to schizophrenia, or if they are more likely to use drugs."

No matter which one causes the other, street drug use and schizophrenia are correlated.

  1. Street drug use causes brain injury.

That’s a link to a government-shared study. Don’t make me post a youtube link to a ‘this is your brain on drugs’ television advertisement of an egg frying in a pan.

Putting 1 and 2 together isn’t complicated. Some schizophrenics have lower IQ’s because they’ve done street drugs, and thus got brain injury. I have no earthly idea why people keep asking why or if people with schizophrenia have lower IQ’s.

Now, that isn’t to say that brain injury can’t heal. Neuroplasticity exists. That isn’t to say that it is everybody’s fault that they were on street drugs. Forms of oppression exist on this planet that I don’t even like to think about much.

However, put simply: Schizophrenia → Street drugs → Lower IQs.

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