Privacy and human rights

do we lose our rights when we get diagnosed with sz?

i want all my rights and feel i deserve them.

some of the voices seem real to me and then that means no privacy for me.

other rights seem taken away too. free speech, and even the right to refuse certain kinds of care.

i take my meds religiously and don’t agree to the kind of social work i am getting, at all. they don’t let me quit it.

should i complain to the gov’t authorities? will this h elp?

judy

Privacy and freedom are a lot less for normies than they’d like to admit, nevermind for us schizophrenics.

Complaining won’t help you get anymore privacy and freedom than you already have.

I don’t hear voices though, so maybe I can’t comment on that aspect of your post.

thank you everhopeful. do you also feel like some people are trying to play the part of therapist in your life as opposed to friendship? judy

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I’m afraid nobody cares enough to play either therapist or friend in my life! I’ve maneuvered myself into a pretty isolated position. I have no one to blame for that but myself.

But if you have people who care enough to try to help by being “therapists” then that’s a good thing.

interesting perspective everhopeful. i don’t like the inferior leverage i feel from it though, i don’t know if i am explaining my feelings correctly but it makes me feel inferior. judy

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There is only the illusion of privacy in this world. I don’t really care about privacy.

I think I know what you mean. Maybe you feel like their project or something.

You can say a lot if you say it with a smile.

Like you could say “it’s ok , you don’t have to be my therapist” and say it with a laugh or a smile.

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I felt like I lost all credibility once I admitted to having schizophrenia. Whenever I complained about coworkers saying mean things about me within hearing range, others would say, “Are you sure you didn’t imagine it?”

Hope you don’t own a mobile phone or have home automation, then. That will really crank the old paranoia level.

Yes, at least temporarily. My mom called the police on me because I was delusional (but not violent or homicidal) and the police arrested me, put me in hand cuffs, and took me to the hospital. I was then trapped there for 2 weeks while they observed me. It’s happened a couple of times. I couldn’t leave the ward, it was so boring and I hated it.

I’ve been strapped down on a gurney and given drugs then taken to other hospitals as well even though I feel there was no need for it. I think from their point of view it’s better safe than sorry.

I’ve also been “formed”, I think some places call it a “Community Treatment Order” and I guess there are other names for it depending on where you live, they let me live at home but it gives them the right to lock me up in the hospital against my will at any time if I were to start acting funny. They took me off that a couple years ago because I am very stable now.

Then there are people that write us off as nuts and think we should all be locked away in an insane asylum. I’ve heard people on TV say “These people should not be allowed on the streets”.

I think there are also court ordered patients that are forced to take there meds even if they don’t want too.

So yeah, at a minimum we live with the reality that our rights can be restricted at any time. But as a credit to modern society they do treat us a lot better than they have in the past. And if we show we are stable or at least not dangerous we are allowed to live in the community and they give us some support (Which I am very appreciative of)

I agree. I take my liberty very seriously, I love freedom. I hate being locked up against my will. I hate captivity.

When I was in the hospital they offered me some kind of legal advocate but I never used that option.

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Well said @Headspark

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No one expects someone with schizophrenia to be perfect or free from their symptoms. I just wish my moms medication had kept working…she’s back from the hospital and still not herself…I want to cry…she had told me months ago that I should prepare if she ever got sick again, and to know that she always loved me but that she might not be well forever. I hate this disease. I am losing the people I love the most.

Too many people think you should lose your rights just because there are so many dishonest people. I think schizophrenia is mostly a problem of people who are physically or mentally unable to deal with a lot of stress and ignorant people try to exaggerate your condition because of rare incidents with a minority of people that happen in the general population as well. No one should lose their rights because of dishonesty. I don’t know what actions should be taken.

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