Not only have I been diagnosed with SzA but I have now, as of today, been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. Does anyone here have any knowledge of this thing?
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I don’t know enough about it. I had a therapist tell me it was a discriminatory diagnosis before attempting DBT on me aka Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. She read a list of questions which seemed written in such a way that offered only ambiguous results and were meant to upset someone. I scored 35 on the Aspergers test. I then saw a therapist who described how autism was a neurological disorder where the brain was different in certain areas, and that there were certain genetic or biological effects which caused a person’s T cells I think, the cells that cause a man to be more feminine and also assist the memories. That might explain how some with Autism can be savant or high skilled in one area. But I don’t know that all the autism abnormalities are the same, prob. varied. It’s a lot to figure out but I read a few online harvard and stanford articles to self-teach the more advanced understandings because there’s a history of certain systems not offering enough information for people to consent to treatment. I am a supporter of informed consent or at least informing someone during the process of evaluation.
I have undergone a new evaluation and I don’t know what to make of it. I’m told that I have normal responses etc. however that I have bipolar non-specified and adhd. It was somewhat descriptive of how I’ve been in the past but not quite enough to believe it was accurate. I don’t think I have a mood disorder. I think BPD describes more of the result of depression and depression is a chronic condition found more so than schizophrenia and more common. But in the same era others are diagnosed with depression, tons of Prozac was pushed into the population that caused more issues of genetic mutations and degenerative biological diseases. I don’t agree with how it was marketed. Just like valium once was a cure all catch all and given to fifty’s house wives as a replacement for the once legal opiates from an earlier era. In the US and around the world since the invention of standardized medicine there have been progresses but also setbacks.
One theory of the cause of schizophrenia like mental disease is an issue that if you are born during the time of a famine or cold conditions, in the womb you can build anti-bodies and certain t-cells? or types of cells which fight disease faster and begin to grow at a rapid rate which makes you less prone to certain diseases and more vulnerable at the same time to others. That is adaptive not mal-adaptive because the body is doing this to protect the person from outside infection, germs, etc. can also cause you to avoid or be more sensitive to certain chemicals and bacteria. If you learned to utilize the bacteria in milk you may utilize it more and over-use, either become lactose intolerant or not it’s all about the way a person is learning to adapt.
The known causes have only really surfaced in within the past 8 years to my knowledge as more have begun to accept and understand the causes and possible cures or temp. cures. It’s not a genetic disorder either I don’t think it’s a genetic response or adaptive biological response that can affect the genes and growth early on. That makes sense too. Borderline is considered a personality disorder that is not curable with medicine. I don’t know about what the cause is, but I imagine its one of the fall outs from other types of mental health issues. I have some of the aspects i think of it, but not sure just the lack of realization sometimes where I am, I’m told sometimes when I get nervous I space out and I have trouble with a consistent identity of who I am. I feel I created who I am. I don’t think I can let go and just exist. I might have had a depersonalization episode when I was younger as opposed to a psychotic episode and there is a difference…I think…because depersonalization is when you are disconnected and belong to personality issues as opposed to psychosis when you think the aliens are after you but it doesn’t affect your actual behavior…it sux. It sux because I was labeled with schizophrenia since the symptoms of the episode were so intense and stressful it appeared to others as paranoia…
If more people could understand the difference it will help stop another person from that confusion. Because borderline cannot be cured with medicine and schizophrenia can only be maintained to a degree they are prob. more different than the same issue.
I wonder what that means…I imagine people can have both too etc. but borderline runs in my family I am pretty sure and I don’t know how that’s possible or if its just more common in certain families, but there are upsides to it.
The author of “Girl, Interrupted” prob. had a co-occurring mood and personality disorder I think its one of the most difficult and painful things to have because its terrifying I am worried it will get worse as I get older I’m twenty-eight and this seems to be the age when people can be the most vulnerable to it…guessing…I’m trying to read more about it because I don’t believe its a response to trauma either or stress. My dad told me only once about how it had affected my mom and it was hard to accept because I was afraid and didn’t understand what that meant. It doesn’t mean you have multiple personalities or that your selfish or crazy, it means that you can easily lose touch with who you are and it can be frightening so you’re always trying to connect the pieces of yourself that feel broken or unknown potential.
So to approach it you have to be more careful…and I would rather just say what helps me. I used to be afraid of going to sleep because I thought I wouldn’t wake up the same person. I was terrified that I would lose sense of who I was…that led up to a depersonalization episode where I just lost entire control of what i was doing. I was not in control of my own actions. It was terrifying. They thought I had been drugged or that it was the stress…tbh I don’t think anything caused it I think it just happened like it did when my mom got sick…and they should’ve known it wasn’t anything else…I have struggled in maintaining an identity. It seemed the further I was from a child the further I was from who I was, even though then I didn’t think about it at all… It was nothing my parents did. My mom had the same issue and it just happened out of random…so I don’t want to talk about it anymore but you’re not alone I hope this helps you understand more about what it can be like and BPD also makes us more prone to be creative and more prone to intense fears of persecution…because when someone stops or depersonalizes a lot can happen then or can enter the mind, when the mind is open in that area you can be more sensitive to information and also more vulnerable. You hear the same thing others do and feel like you are paying more attention, but its actually that someone else may be hearing it just not as intensely, focusing concentration, etc. I just watched a video so I’m kind of happy that I have an explanation…
I still really have no faith in it; because how could it take ten years before I was able to seek treatment about something and actually know the cause and actually know and be able to cure it…
i was given a diagnosis of BPD and psychotic NOS as my second time being diagnosed. they said it was because my emotions were everywhere and i had a short fuse
My ex-gf is borderline. She has classic signs of it. Very rapid mood swings, highly unstable, and exhibits black-and-white thinking (no grey areas). She cuts, too, which is very common with borderlines. She’s frequently suicidal, one of the most emotionally unstable people I’ve ever known.
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Wow! I’m really sorry to hear that. That’s rough news.
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One pdoc thought I was borderline but most thought my borderline-like symptoms (I used to cut quite a bit when agitated) were just part of my sz. I don’t know what to think! Everything is so overlapping.
Pdocs don’t know what to Dx half the time either, it’s kind of a guessing game to id the problem behavior, which changes constantly according to the eyes that seeit.
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are you gonna be ok>? thats really harsh
yeah they lumped that on me too age 21, but it’s really manifested as nothing but a background destructive personality
i have smoked like i wanted to die at 60 a day - make a bee-line for anything that might be remotely bad or harmful but have made a relationship choice / found the right guy and now i just have the odd bit of s i when i want to get rid of other compulsive behaviours
i think they changed it to Multiple Compulsive Addictive Personality
it’s basically a death wish / tragedy script from Transactional analysis
i think by the time someone changes their mind about wanting to die for one reason or other it ends up being too late but it’s the nature of tragedy and not many escape that childhood decision - even Eric Berne who was the founder of TA died of smoking related cancer (I think|) aged about 60
if you need a friend I’m sure that sir boring would be happy to help out
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My ex wife had Borderline, she was extremely difficult to live with.
Many times “difficult” patients are given a Borderline diagnosis.
People with Borderline can be very impulsive and have volatile moods.
Suicide attempts and self injurious behaviors are also common.
They usually see in black and white terms.
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Like honestly sz is way more serious than a personality disorder.
Yeah I agree. I don’t have Sz though, I have Sza which is less serious than Sz. But I think when you add SzA and BPD together it’s pretty bad.
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Do u have really intense urgent issue bpd or is it just there in the background? People can have it to different degrees.
in my life I’ve known a few people with BPD and never got along with any of them. it was just too draining for me. it demanded a lot of energy from me.
I’m not generalizing though. I know it’s not like that for everyone.
It’s something that pops up every now and then but for the most part I’ve learned to manage on my own.
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Comparatively speaking, at a general level, of course sz is more serious. That is not to say though that a PD can’t be serious in its own right.
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