What do you think about this phenomenon?
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Not real. Some people got their anti-apartheid activist wrong, that’s all. I’m willing to hypothesise that black people were less likely to get Mandela and Biko mixed up.
Ya i believe it. Not sure how it all works.
you mean this with it right?:
Easily explained by false memories. People misremember even very vivid memories, such as where they were during some very important event. Like 9/11. There are studies on this. Even prospective ones. If you believe in the Mandela effect you’re either delusional or you just don’t know enough about how memories work.
Ya i doubt you know too. Textbooks only go so far dude.
Not textbooks, studies that show people have very vivid memories of things that certifiably never happened. So you don’t need the Mandela effect to explain your false memories. Unless you believe your memory is so exceptional, and so much more accurate than everyone else’s, that you’d never misremember important things. In which case I think you’re delusional.
The Mandela effect is the name people use when they think their false memories actually happened and that it was because of some parallel universe thing that it isn’t the reality now. E.g. that Nelson Mandela actually died before 2013, which a lot of people misremembered at the time, and that he was only alive after that in this universe because of parallel universes.
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ah yea, thanks for explaining! I didn’t really get what it was…
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Ya. 99% of studies are bs. I am find being viewed as delusional. Im more interested in the likes of michio kaku who studied the stuff instead of social philosophers, activists, and engineers…no offense.
No, it’s fine. I think you’re completely delusional and wrong, and you think I’m wrong. Agree to disagree, I guess.
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Speculative physicists like him have a lot more in common with medieval metaphysics than the modern day philosophers have.
He’s a string theorist and theoretical physicist.
Modern day philosophers are useless, but i get what your saying.
I gotta deal with Christians and schizophrenics on a daily basis. I enjoy it a lot – sometimes. They share some similarities on science. I think some schizophrenics are triggered by science and others embrace it.
Modern day philosophers are useless? I don’t exactly agree but I’m curious, in which way do you think philosophers in the past were useful?
You just said 99% of science is useless…
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The interesting thing about the Mandela effect, is that it affects a mass of people. These are not false personal memories, but a mass delusion of sorts
I mostly put it down to pop culture, and it’s misinterpretation and misrepresentation of things. There may very well be examples that are more compelling, but that’s what it seems to be in general
Another name for it might be common assumption
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That’s an interesting point, which reminds me of Halbwachs’ work on collective memory. It’s incredible how often we fall into the trap of assuming the ‘individual’ constitutes the natural analytical unit.
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Group psychosis happens when people talk to eachother. These are false personal memories, not mass delusions, it’s just that they’re common kinds of false personal memories. Our thoughts and our memory distortions do not happen in a random manner.
The flawed way of thinking when it comes to the Mandela effect is exactly that this couldn’t happen to so many people without there being something more to it than just false memories. But it can. Because false memories are extremely common and not random.