Yes, I don’t think he said that the illness can be conquered with willpower (did he really say that?), but that he challenged his delusions that way.
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Yeah, he challenged them with logic. I just can’t see that as possibility and that’s why I feel misled by him. Because the medication is what did everything for me, for the most part as far as delusion goes
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For me the medications have done wonders. But, some people recover without them too. I think that was the case with him. I guess if you get better to a degree than you are able to challenge or question the delusions, and that betterment happened to Nash because of age.
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he said that it was true for him, but it wasn’t true for his son. acknowledge that his son required medication whether it would be the only path for his son to be cared by the care system. he himself did not want that for himself he said because he could. so I don’t think he was pushing noncompliance
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But he was just as brilliant. he was hospitalized at 18 - still became a mathematician phd from Princeton. but cared for by his mom lived at home and receiving treatment. that is a story. I think the mom wife deserves more recognition. without her Both wouldn’t be who they are
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Well, if he did PHD In Mathematics after diagnosis, he must be brilliant. I believe he wasn’t in Princeton though, he did it from Rutgers University if I am not mistaken.
I agree Alicia saved John Nash, and of course, enabled her son to live a good life.
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You simply cannot compare yourself to a famous Schizophrenic that died years ago, in john nash. Its a spectrum disease - his difficulty’s were probably vastly different - to what we go thru. My personal delusion and paranoia, for example, will be different than yours.
What he did do, tho, to overcome it, was use logic. That is a great skill to have.
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I wouldn’t take away from him for graduating through Rutgears university, university prestige is a statistical indicator imo. But a PhD in my eyes, is still peer reviewed so it’s probably a massive feat whatever he did it on considering how the illness is
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Agreed, it is a massive feat, and Rutgers is no small name. But, think about it this way: IF you are in Princeton PHD Mathematics, you are among the top few minds in the world. IF you are in Rutgers you might be one.
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@naarai
True.
comparing and observing the many forms shapes of SZ and what overlaps ∧ what can be learned and model.
not comparing = I am like nash.
We live in a different era. medication treatment DSM changed.
We also live in a technology world where we can be isolated still communicate
We have AI now that changes course of personally my management of SZ
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True point, can’t fault that reasoning
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