Now that I’m stable I wish I had regular friends. What should I do to get someone to talk to all day?
Schizophrenics don’t usually associate with normal people.
You shouldn’t look for someone to talk to all day
I don’t know if what @yinyang said is true for everyone. I mean I understand his logic as after the diagnosis I haven’t had much luck when it comes to long term friends, I do however have some friends I’ve known for more than 3/4ths of my life. I’m 33 and two of them I’ve been friends since I was 4 and 5 years old. I moved far from them and we are still close friends but one thing I can tell you is that even though we are very close friends who can talk about whatever, we don’t usually talk all day. We do catch up and once in awhile we will talk serveral times a week for a few hours but now many of them have children and well, I know they have stuff to do so having a friend isn’t always someone to talk with all day. Maybe that would be more along the lines of a significant other. All that said, I do think despite the illness we can still have friends.
I dont think theres anything someone could do to get me to talk all day
Be patient with whoever comes into your life and try to not be choosey. Ask them questions about themselves to get them to open up.
Hard to be friends with someone you didn’t know before, as there are trust issues.
Still weather the storm of a few initial meetings, and things might grow.
I would love to have friends too but i rather be alone than with fake bad people that don’t love value me etc
They have to like n love me not one sided only and they should accept me as I am even if we have different political views and opinions.
Not get jealous of me or try dominating me etc
It’s probably good to be a little picky.
Don’t want fake friends who don’t like you but pretend to.
Genuine good stuff .
Then one can have acquaintances that you can exchange sentences with.
Hope you will find nice friends that suit you beautifully.
I read the how to win friends and… book and basically it instructs you to become a likeable sociable person instead of an abrasive individual person. No thanks
you have a friend in me. I will not however talk to you all day as I am not much of a talker. With the internet nowadays it is not a dificult thing to find someone with the same interests as you and become friends. Good luck
My thought about group social behavior is that you have to become some type of actor and conform to the collective thinking of the group. I don’t have that need at all. It is one good feature of sz is my lack of need to be social or to feel like proving myself for social acceptance. I am nobody and I love it.
Im starting to understand your perspective on being ego free. I guess being individual doesnt require ego, afterall even if we dont have a sensitive self we are still seperate self contained individuals. I think all i would be able to achieve is a reflexive ego where my ego would be threatened then i would realize it and then tell my ego to be quiet
Another feature of mine: I don’t allow negativity to enter my life. if they are present somehow i walk away. . the philosophy of positivism is what i live by because it matches my core. only positive is accepted and created. i dont know if i am correct about the term ego. i base my knowledge about the word ego by knowing its differentiations like egoism or egocentrism. so i didn’t quite understand your affirmations about how your ego would respond. how would you define ego? I may be fundamently wrong.
Ego is a psychological term. It’s basically the sense of self that a person has. It’s a theoretical thing, but someone without an ego would basically not have an individual identity. The conscious mind that you have is basically your ego experiencing the world from a first person perspective. But as you know there is more to ego than that. Having a big ego, being egocentric, being egotistical, egoism, egoistic, are all common ways of referring to a way of having an ego. Basically a person who is only concerned with their own self- interests is the epitome of egoism. Being an altruistic, community - collective oriented person is considered to have low ego. However, it’s possible a person who is collective- community oriented gets their sense of self from others and not from within. So there is two different ego orientations a person can have where the sense of self originates. I personally am more oriented to introspection and rejecting what others think about me and am fairly selfish, however I don’t self-promote or think too highly of myself. Then there is the issue of ego defense. Things like rationalization, denial, sourgrapes, are ego defense mechanisms. If you find yourself thinking or saying things that minimize the impact of loss, rejection, failure etc. you are engaging in ego defense. So if you fail at a course you are taking and say “I didn’t want to be a X anyway” you are trying to protect your ego. Or if you say I don’t care or it doesn’t matter, you are in denial. Someone with no ego to defend in that situation might say ‘I’m a stupid idiot’, and if they can do that without it actually damaging their self-esteem maybe they could say they are ego free.
i fully understood the concept. I should also mention i don’t agree with the competition philosophy in which humans believe they are competing. I dont think i am competing therefore i dont believe in failure or rejection or losing or winning. i actually find this philosophy completelly based on egoistic concepts. the need to prove one’s worth. it is illusional collective thinking. it does not exist if you don’t want it to. it makes no sense to be believed in. Mainly because it is unhealthy as it brings many frustrations and suffering and stops you from fully contemplating the beauty of life because you are caring for collective thinking. I give no importance to what other people think. Note that i dont really participate in community at all. I avoid all kinds of opression. Collective thinking is opression ulteriorly.
I think it is a good thing to work on. I do see what you mean about being ego free, having a sense of self that can’t be damaged by all the little things society has to impact your ego, like setting up a competition where you can win or lose, or a situation where someone shares their opinion of you, or decides to accept or reject you, or a situation where you can decide to give something or take something. There’s many of these kinds of situations, too many to name. So I guess being ego free accepts the reality that you must have an individual consciousness, but your sense of self is unaffected by outside things by having a critical understanding of society. I think it is probably a good idea to not let things you think about yourself impact you either.
yes, i would like to say my honor i defend if offended. that is an exception. i avoid it to the maximum but has happened before and i face it head on even if it means death. i care about that. i believe honor is something not social but my identity if you will. And also i do not participate on competitive activities so i do not face these situations. I am very anti social. I live alone and only leave the house to go surfing or to go to the market or to the pharmacy.
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