Anyone who read my previous post knows that I voluntarily agreed to take my new Abilify shot. I then got a letter in the mail saying that I was committed to involuntary outpatient treatment.
This letter included a provision that I could not possess a firearm and such.
My concerns were twofold.
I felt I was not able to represent myself and since I agreed to take the shot voluntarily that this involuntary commital was unjust and unwarranted.
When my parents pass I worry that its possible that at some point in the future I may end up in a less than savory neighborhood and if I need a firearm to protect myself, I should have that right to do so.
I dont even want a firearm now. I have never owned one and I dont currently want one. I just dont like the idea of having my rights stripped away when its unnecessary.
Today I went to the clerk of court and filed some papers. I have a zoom meeting they are going to send me a letter about on the 24th in regards to the outpatient treatment.
Then I have a hearing that will be in person for the firearms thing.
Anywho, theres my update.
Since my psychiatrist seems to be intent on doing things against my will, I also will now attend my appointments, get my shot and I will not say one word to her. Try and force treatment when your patient wont even talk to you.
I wouldn’t let any government apparatus to take my second amendment rights away. They’re not God, so they can’t take away my natural rights. I would fight this at every turn.
I’m sorry you’re going through this, @Bowens. If it was me, I wouldn’t let them do this without first fighting for your second amendment rights. You’re a good dude, and I would fight this in court.
Thanks @John_Raven . In all likelihood, I will never even want a gun. Its really just the principal of the matter at this point and the fact that I dont like being labeled incompetent and having my rights stripped away because some psychiatrist decides thats what they want.
And good luck with any cooperation in my treatment other than the injection from me. My psychiatrist has blown any and all trust I had in her. I wont say anything to her, besides that “I’m here as I’m required to be.”
No, I did not threaten them. The only thing that I have done us that I have not been sleeping at home sometimes because I was having some paranoia about being vulnerable in my sleep. I had been sleeping in auto and such sometimes.
Also, I was not taking all of my diabetes medication.
This will likely cause her to view you as being paranoid and more in need of her. Being polite and helpful without being verbose is your best bet to get her out of your life as fast as possible. Condolences man, I know this sucks, but try to avoid doing anything that will stretch this out on you.
What if I tell her exactly why Im not talking to her? She’ll know its not because of illness but because of irritation
Btw, I just had a breakthrough on knowing how she knew that I wasnt always sleeping at home. I asked my my mom if she was talking to my psychiatrist without my knowledge. She was in the bathroom and couldnt hear so I asked my dad. He said he didnt. Then my mom came out and I told her I already asked dad. She said “what did you tell him?”. So, I strongly suspect they were talking to my psychiatrist behind my back. So, I just called and removed my dad from being able to talk to her and as my emergency contact.
They both still deny they are. But its obvious. THey are lying straight to my face.
There’s nothing wrong with saying you’re upset with the current situation, but make sure you are non-confrontational and don’t act in any way that would be interpreted as threatening to her. I get a lot of brownie points with treatment providers for showing up organized, demonstrating respect, and being helpful with their requests. It lets me get stuff from them they don’t normally like doing for SZ patients. Remember the saying about catching more flies with honey.
I would definitely be open and tell her that her actions really upset you and to ask her why she felt it was needed when you don’t see how it was. Otherwise she might say “this is why I gave you a court order because you are uncooperative” or something.
Pretty sure the laws vary by state. I have a hearing set up to see if I can regain the right. I probably wont at the current time, thanks to my psychiatrist.
Having a firearm really isnt that big of a deal at the current time. I just dont like having the option stripped away as if Im some second class citizen just because my parents went behind my back and my psychiatrist decided to have me committed outpatient.
The whole thing reeks of impropriaty and deception if you ask me. And Im not going to completely cowtow to it. I will have my hearings, probably lose and make everyone well aware of how disgusted I am.
I think the best solution is to get out your anger by complaining to us BUT NOT complaining too much or getting overly aggressive with your pdoc and parents
If you act angry and bitter, they’ll think of you as unwell and it’ll only encourage them to put even more restrictions on you. They’ll double down.
You don’t want that. So complain to us and be calm and respectful towards them.
It’s ok to calmly and respectfully say to them what bothers you and why . Just don’t get too emotional. Stay in control of yourself the best you possibly can
