I’d like to see the reading,
and prove not misfiring of the brain,
but electrical impulse ‘bursting’
and see if the neurologist would say, it’s not normal.
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maybe brainwaves will be different, maybe their would be a spike, i use to have a game that had a brain wave sensor on it and i had to control the power of a fan with the power of thought to move a ball around, it was very cool, was called mindflex 
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I am pretty sure it has been done. I remember awhile back seeing a tv porgram that MRI scanned a brain of someone who heard voices and it picked up neurons fring in part of the ear responsible for processing sound, as though it was hearing things; showing that the voices were indeed real and not imaginary. This would be an external voice, rather than an internal one.
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The game involves something called neurofeedback and is said to be helpful for practicing alpha and theta brainwaves that can help soothe sz, ptsd etc.
I want a neurofeedback machine but the cheapest decent one I can find is £189 called neurosky.
https://store.myndplay.com/products.php?prod=14
https://myndplay.com/ for more about it.
I have been reading that neurofeedbck can really help calm the brain, and even combat addiction.
I think I’ll save up for one.
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That is very interesting, i wonder if i can get a cheap mindband that is compatible with my current vr headset i already have.
I think its a great idea to focus the mind and or relax, not sure how it would work, if it knows your brain pattern then surely it can help in some way.
i just found this but look at the reviews, seems they have been having problems with it, maybe idk if this is the latest model though but its the cheapest i think…
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I believe it trains the brain to think in certain ways, for example enhancing alpha brainwaves with practice which alters the brain beneficially in the long run. The book I have just read talks about how 20 sessions really changes lives in war vets and addicts giving an example of a cocaine addict who no longer uses after just a few sessions. Miraculous it seems.
I think @Ninjastar has a neurofeedback machine and knows a little more about how it can help sz patients.
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This is compatible with vr headsets.
https://store.myndplay.com/products.php?prod=28
but it is £179 but you also get apps to use with it.
See this for an example of how neurofeedback helped this man:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10874208.2013.852893?journalCode=wneu20
It shows the voices were a real experience and that they were processed similarly to sounds.
Even imaginary experiences get processed in the auditory cortex, though. Just thinking about sounds will activate that part of the brain, too. It does not say anything about whether the voices were real, which they aren’t. But the experience is still real.
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I didn’t mean to imply that the voices were supernatural or real in the sense that it isn’t coming from your own brain, but to imply that the sound is registered as though it was real.
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that’s interesting, and I’d like to give it a try too,
but I was really talking about the body electric
and what happens during psychosis,
and if you could have proof of schizophrenia
instead of just talking about symptoms.
I’ve had an EEG while hallucinating before, and they said I had no abnormal activity. They were worried my hallucinations were signs of seizure activity.
And @labratmat I have a biofeedback machine, which is similar to neurofeedback. My machine measures the temperature of your brain. I got it back when the technology was brand new. Mine cost $5,000 but I was able to get insurance to pay for it after a long battle. I don’t believe they will cover neurofeedback or biofeedback machines at all anymore.
I also use the mindflex game as a backup to my biofeedback machine sometimes. It is a rougher experience, and tires me out more quickly. It also sometimes gives me a headache. With these devices, it’s important to get one with lots of positive reviews, to avoid side effects such as headaches and nausea.
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so, it doesn’t show then, huh?
just wondered. I guess I want some kind of proof that
I actually have this illness,
and it would help the early ones that doubt they have this.
It might show up, but general EEG operators aren’t trained in how to recognize it. It could be a slight difference that still falls in the “normal” category.
MRIs of schizophrenic brains typically show a 1-10% reduction in gray matter, but only a specially trained neurologist would be able to notice the difference, because it still falls in the “normal” category for MRIs.
that’s true. thanks for responding.
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how did that work for you?
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