I would guess it is both medication and illness. Running around in complete terror of aliens or whatever, doesn’t exactly help one think straigth either. Or concentrate on remembering strings of numbers.
Indeed, there is sometimes no other choice than accept this loss, and deal with it as best as one can. That comes with a mourning process, I think, just as when one loses a loved one, or ends up in a wheelchair and can’t walk anymore. With all the emotions mourning brings: sadness, anger, denial, et cetera.
No I’m a idiot and I’ve never been smart it sucks being so goddamn stupid there’s a few reasons I feel ■■■■■■■■ I don’t wanna offend anybody or cause problems
There is premorbid lower iq in population that go on to develop scz
During onset or the prodromal phase there is lowering of iq in scz population
schizophrenia is likey neurodevelopmental meaning that iq is stable after the onset and of symptoms
Imo fluid intelligence and problem solving ability is going to be impaired by sedation especially under time pressure. I don’t think having higher dopamine make you smarter so d2 blockers shouldn’t necessarily make you dumper. Still antipsychotics have a lot of receptor targets so yeah entirely possible that they impair cognition. Actually I think it’s pretty obvious that they impair cognition but this is often mixed up by clinicians because of the difficulties of delinating premorbid/prodromal iq effects and then the disorder itself. Even if you are better at solving a single math problem when you are psychotic your likey not going to be very effective in a job long term if your not taking antipsychotics. Ergo a lot of the argument is null and void not to take antipsychotics because if iq effects. I think that probably why clinicians don’t care and also no pharmaceutical companies or anyone tied to them would undertake these studies. No reason too. What you can do is focus on lowering total sedation load to improve cognition. This was basically my rationale from day one when trying to make changes with my medication to improve my thinking and life. It’s definitely not overly complicated to do that safely and you definitely don’t need to go into is as deep as I’ve got to get good results. Most of the stuff which actually helps is mainly common knowledge. I.e. not sedating medication, lowering medication Caffeine ect.
Fisher man please be easy on yourself I can truly relate to what your saying I am just as judgesterous to myself as you are but we have to go easy on ourselves to survive in this world.
So far so good re IQ,but I’m of an age when the situation can change dramatically in a short space of time,.Even more so with a diagnosis of schizophrenia/schizoaffective… I just about hold my own in the high IQ community where the average age is about 30 years younger than me. My father is 92. Will be 93 in June. He’s physically quite frail,has to use a walking stick, but his mind is still sharper than many half his age or less.I doubt it will happen, but I’d like to live long enough to see my gt grandchildren become adults.
I just cannot accept my cognitive problems so today for the first time in 26 years I don’t keep my appointment with the clinic about getting my longacting injection. They cannot force me to do so because I have none and never had a community treatment order.
I find the 900 mgs seroquel much better than the injection and this is the first time in 26 years that I disagree on the injection.
I’d rater die than having a blank mind all the time.
Personally, I think my IQ has stayed the same. But that might just be my ego talking. But I don’t think my IQ has gone down too much. My ability to problem solve has gone down. And ability to learn new things. But things I have learned through my life are still in my brain. So idk.
I can’t solve your problem, only you can solve your problem. It took years of pushing myself, but I made it back to where I was before. It’s not perfect, but I feel pretty good.
I’m not very interested in measuring intelligence with an IQ test. But yes, I can relate, I feel dumber now than two years ago. I don’t know how much is related to my schizotypi or how much is an effect of medication.
Strange, but I had a drinking problem, and i stopped recently, and now I feel even dumber than when I was drinking.
I plan in the nearest future to exercise my brain to prevent further deterioration. Force myself to read, learn a language etc.
When I moved to NJ and got settled in, I thought my IQ had descended to meet the basic area requirements. It was not so much a medication problem as a people problem. Still, medication has a dulling, stupefying effect. You end up paying lip service to the mental health providers and the system itself.
NEWS. for the first time i didn’t keep my appointment. I have negotiatited the depot from 400 mg every other week to 500 mg every 3 week. I keep the qutiapine on 900 mgs as this is my main antipsychotics.
