Your not getting me at all. The more you worry about it - the more its gonna stress you out. Yeah FFS take a shower. But there are times when you just got to say “sod it” and not care.
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your not getting me. it doesnt stress me out. i dont care. i dont care that i dont shower and i also dont care that i dont care to shower. why would i shower when i dont care. that is the main difference between negs and depression and is what negative symptoms are.
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No i disagree. Its just a play on words. Your Depressed, you just dont recognise it.
Not caring also can mean depression.
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im not depressed. it is actually a very almost releasing enjoyable feeling. idk how u can believe in depression but not negative symptoms. dopamine is the main chemical for motivation and reward. but i guess u disagree with me and basically every psychiatrist, and every medical textbook. and think u can diagnose me with depression online. i know myself well and i know i am not depressed.
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Listen to me, that’s had it for over 26 years, Stop over analysing your shite and chill out.
You can spout all the buzz words all you like, but until you learn TO RELAX about your condition, you aint gonna move on. You can quote what the hell you like, but until you develop your own personal coping skills, you aint gonna get any better.
Your overthinking a hell of a lot of it. You could just be lazy - thought of that?
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ive also had it for 26 years. did u ever think that maybe its not the same for everyone. I DID NOT START THIS THREAD. I NEVER BITCHED ABOUT IT AT ALL. I SAID I DONT CARE. What dont u understand about I DO NOT CARE.
as far as lazy…before this set in, i have reroofed houses, i have built tons of fences, i have drywalled, i have run electrical systems, i have laid floors, i have repaired transmissions, i rode my bike 50 miles one day…i have done all kinds of difficult stuff.
you cant understand it til you have felt it
why do u even care? like it doesnt effect u. why are u here saying people are just lazy?
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I have thought about this. That I’m extremely lazy.
When I was in my 20’s I worked out between 3-6 times a week. I showered every day.
I just want to change. Workout, shower and handle my business by taking care of my apartment.
But perhaps I prioritize lying on the couch and mindlessly surfing the web, being a lazy Fu-ck.
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i have considered this too. and when i explain it to other people who wouldnt understand i just say “i am extremely lazy” and joke about it but for real, i doubt in the last 3 years that i had a sudden change and became an extremely lazy person
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About time you challenged yourself - and gave yourself a kick up the arse then.
Cos no one else is going to do it for you.
Yeah im harsh. And i get stick for it. But my intentions are well meant x
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Dear girl if it had been under other circumstances I would have loved to meet you in person. All the things you’re explaining I really can relate to. The things you talk about was the way I felt in my mid twenties and I wish there was anything I could do for you to make you feel comfort.
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those were things i did in the past. i didnt suddenly get up and do them cause u said im just lazy. i didnt “give myself a kick in the ass” to do them, i just did them. i did all that before the past 3 years. thats my point. i was never lazy.
ur attitude toward this is basically the equivalant of the person who tells a depressed person to just stop being sad. or an anxious person to just stop worrying.
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I suffered from negs for 10 years before feeling that I improved. Those years I didn’t consider myself as lazy. The negs were so bad I couldn’t even sit at the kitchen table without my head falling down on the table.
But now I feel that I have more energy, less negs. But I do feel that my internal on switch is lacking.
I don’t doubt that you’ve been a hard worker.
Sometimes a kick in the arse is what we need. Like me, right now.
But when @irrelevant is talking about his symptoms I doubt that it’s that easy.
When I was suffering from negs I couldn’t do sh-it. And no amount of talking could’ve helped me.
@Naarai have you ever experienced severe negatives?
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No. Im telling you to not be a victim. You can moan all you like. But unless you fight your condition - and stop chucking the DSM around, you will be in the same position in 10 years time.
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lol im not even complaining or being a victim. i literally said I DONT CARE that i have negative symptoms like 20 times. and i dont even know the dsm. and never mentioned anything from the DSM. i just understand how my mind works and how motivation and reward work IN ALL PEOPLE.
if i wanted advice from someone on how to get more motivation id wanna hear from someone who has experienced it before and improved it. not someone who has never experienced it and thinks people are just lazy.
but i never asked for advice. because it doesnt bother me anymore.
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@irrelevant @Naarai we are all friends here. No need to go back and forth with the same arguments.
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i was just defending myself. he has said im lazy. said im “throwing the dsm around”, “using buzzwords”, being a “victim”, “moaning”… and whatever else. when i have said repeatedly that im not complaining because i dont care. anyway im done. no arguing with someone who hasnt experienced what u are trying to explain yet thinks they have all the answers.
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Ive said my piece mate. Lets leave it that x 
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I take generic Pristiq antidepressant. I take it mostly for anxiety help. In my experience, Pristiq I don’t think impacts my motivation, ambition, or drive. I know this because I felt a decrease in those qualifies long before I began taking Pristiq. So Pristiq isn’t the cause.
For me it’s the negative symptoms, sadly. I try pushing myself and do regular therapy to try to help as best I can. But like you, I am just content with nothing all the time. I can’t stop meds either because I’m an absolute wreck without. It’s hard.
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When I was only on an antidepressant I was highly motivated.
When my dr added an antipsychotic I lost all my motivation, and my passion for hobbies I used to have.
I’m not sure if it’s the AP alone, or the combination of an AP with an AD.
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When I used to be only on antidepressants I actually was more motivated
I went to gym and I hustled for my money etc
Ever since I got put on antipsychotics, I lost all that. For many years I was a complete zombie. I actually don’t remember a thing for those 3-4 years. Not a single memory.
But yeah the answer for me is , it’s not the antidepressant that did that for me. It was the antipsychotics
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