Gay is still pretty derogatory in a lot of places… try kansas hah : )
■■■■ all straights… I’ll continue to try and queer them out till the day I die hahah
I mean i’m straight… I’ve been doing it to myself this whole time (or am i o_O?)
all the same…
cray rights is kind of gay… just let them know you struggle with some mental issues and they’ll probably relate.
Cray sounds like a kid’s word.
The Crayon Rights!
I don’t really like it to be honest, but I get where you’re getting at.
I spend too much time reminding myself I am not crazy to be put on the crazy label by myself.
I would prefer something more recovery oriented, instead of assuming the craziness.
Being crazy is nothing to be proud of to be honest, our kind of crazy anyway.
Reminds me of that Star Trek episode where the Nazi looking people run around saying ‘Death to Zayons!’
Part of the problem is we are too uptight and self-stigmatizing to ever break this cycle I’m afraid. People have walked all over us for years and we’re too afraid to say, ‘hey this isn’t right, it isn’t fair and cut it the Hell out.’
There’s got to be something less cumbersome and clinical than ‘mentally ill’ or ‘person with Schizophrenia’ etc.
Self stigma is different than insight and good judgement and common sense. I would not like to be labeled and “crae crae” or “cray cray” nor am I proud of my craziest moments.
I spend a lot of time trying to distinguish reality from delusions to be able to enjoy that notion that being “cray cray” is somehow good.
Nor I would like to go to a doctors appointment and the doctor saying “This is a case of cray cray” jokingly assuming that would not be offensive.
Also, the gays and the whole lgbt community don’t have periods of insanity nor is it an illness or disorder, it’s perfectly natural to assume a word that is not offensive by nature (gay meaning happy) and using it to empowerment.
It’s not the same. I think we are better of fighting the stigma if we find creative ways to deal with it in our own personal lives or helping, or even creating, solutions for our fellow men and women.
A little more realistic than getting out the notion that being crazy is okay, because it’s not, and it’s the reason why we take meds and go to therapy. We don’t want to be crazy.
While a agree with some of your points, it comes off as being ashamed and uptight or forcing people back in a closet rather than just being matter-of fact it being a part of our lives.
I can pass as Nerotypical and have pretty much recovered by most accounts, and have more insight than many. And I have far more to lose by deviating from the status quo. I’m just sick of having to hide.
In all honesty, you don’t have to hide. At the same time you don’t have to be proud of being crazy. It’s sounds like two extremes that do not meet.
I don’t tell everyone, I choose people. And I’m comfortable with that. If I’m in the mood to educate, I educate, but in the end of the day the ignorance is theirs not ours. I don’t care that much for what people judge without knowing me. And I’m not going to assume their ignorance as a good thing because of that.
With this said, I wouldn’t have to deal with that because I live in a country where people don’t use the word cray cray and mental illness carries less stigma than in the US, it’s more like feeling sorry and pityful than scared and ostracizing.
Nor do I consider myself uptight at all lol… Nor am I in the closet about my illness. Came a long way from that.
It’s their ignorance, not yours.
Actually that’s not what happened. Gay had (and still has in some circles) a derogatory meaning that predates the Gay Rights movement in America. This was in parallel to its meaning of happy. It was co-opted by th lgbt community and both meanings have been pushed-out by a more positive one. Read the link in my original post if you want the full story.
It’s not the same thing. Being gay is not an illness, and calling someone crazy can be in a good way, so it isn’t always in a prejorative manner. I think your mixing bananas with kiwis and calling it banawi
So what’s the problem with saying cray? It’s the same meaning.
From what I understand it’s not the same meaning but well, I won’t keep fighting this, if you guys want to start a movement go ahead, who am I to judge? I was just stating my opinion.
Depends on who you talk to I guess. It just seemed to have more positive reinforcement to me, but maybe that is because I am in the States.
Maybe it’s cultural yeah. Like I said, I wouldn’t be really targeted by it, it’s not in my culture to say that. There’s a lot of “That’s crazy” as a good thing and as a bad thing, but there’s not so much stigma as there is there.
My approach over there would be something more in the line of making others understand we’re not all dangerous and lunatics, that we take meds, that we take care of our recoveries. Less in the line of “I’m crazy and I like it, deal with it”
It’s clear you are not American. Things like that is what make people take notice. Look at Donald. But I do agree we need to put the stigma to the side and show that we aren’t dangerous lunatics ready to rampage. Part of that is showing that we care about how people perceive us and to take a label and make it our own. It’s is something people can get behind.
Yeah, 'murica
I agree with you
Human rights: we are One something like that.
Equal opportunities for employment
accommodations in employment (to a reasonable extent)
Limiting the use of restraints on mental patients
Banning the use of restraints on non-violent mental patients
Tax-funded outpatient services
more affordable health care services
more affordable emergency care services
more affordable outpatient services
right to assistance filing complaints in situations where there is an allegation of a violation of a mental patient’s rights.
Specialized return-to-work programs specifically for sz that integrates social skills training in it
the evolution of the Crae-Crae Revolution
I agree - this ties into gay rights, too. The perception of gay people was that we were child molesters, sociopaths, likely to be murderers. We weren’t to be trusted with children, we were likely to be deceitful, best case scenario, we were sad, lonely inverts who lived pathetic half-lives.
I think crae rights could do something similar - what does it mean to be mentally ill? Who do you know who is mentally ill? Teachers, doctors, writers, your hairdresser, your sister, your vet, etc - in most cases, you can’t tell.
There are small movements like this around already, but idk, it’s the age of the hashtag. It needs something catchy and daring to get people’s attention and gather momentum.
Id want to fight for myself and anyone else struggling wih their existence. I find the craziest people are the ones that blindly go through life without questioning anything. Those are he people we should really worry about
Not to mention mentally ill. Yes, until 1973 homosexuality was considered a mental illness in the US. It was in the DSM-II that way until they voted it off the list. I’d like to think the Gay Rights Movement had a hand in that. The World Health Organisation Still called it a disorder until 1990.