you are the master of your own mind… 
yes you may hear voices…but i do to…
but i am the one who makes the final decisions. 
if your voices tell you to walk down the main street naked…do you do it ?.. " no ".
of course you don’t.
take a deep breath…centre yourself.
know someone cares . 
take care 
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I think my voices are real too. I feel that they are inside and outside my body. Never heard voices before only about 6 years ago. Had so much peace back then, Suffer from anxiety attacks because i think someone hacked into my brain. And put pictures in my mind of things only i would know unless they are psychic. I’m tired of the derogatory voices and only find peace by the nice, supportive, friendly voices. Would be so relieved if my voices were not real. I know that sounds pretty ironic.
it’s taken me a long time and a lot of help finally getting to this point.
Anything you experience can be said to be real or not. There’s no way to prove entirely that something is real or not. Each individual that has existed, does exist, or ever will exist perceives this reality different from any other individual. There is no set constant reality. When I think thoughts, I utilize a voice in my head. Right now as I type this I am using this voice. Is it real? That doesn’t matter. Is the information factual and correct? That’s more important. Is it helping me or harming me? That’s more important. If a voice is telling me 5+5= 56, then that voice is wrong to me. If it says 5+5=10 then it is correct in my mind. Doesn’t matter what it sounds like or where it comes from to me.
“it’s all manifestations of our own mind” is completely true without any doubt. But that statement doesn’t hold any ground or mean anything, since anything and everything is a manifestation of your own mind. Even the stuff considered real. It’s the same thing as saying “it’s all in your head”… well yeah, mostly, that’s where the brain is 
. Everything you see, touch, smell, taste, hear, and feel is transmitted to your brain and filtered and translated/interpreted by your mind. I’m not saying that your brain is everything though. The mind operates on different levels, but that’s another topic.
As for the topic of telepathy, I don’t understand how anybody can be sure that it’s not real and doesn’t exist. Maybe that’s comfort thinking for any belief of remaining privacy? They want to think that their thoughts could never be received by others? Everything in this reality is frequency and vibration through space-time, with language and code for means of processing, storing, and transmitting information. Even our artificial technology with is primitive in my opinion can clue someone into how telepathy is possible and how it may work. Look at Wi-Fi internet and mobile phone technology. You can use a wireless device and talk to someone while looking at their face on a screen live. The information is transmitted from one device to another wirelessly. It’s then received, processessed, and translated by the receiving device, and displayed where the receiving person can understand. These devices and this technology operate in certain frequencies and are only programmed to understand and work with a certain frequencies, codes, and languages. Others can spy on others in this Wi-Fi world by cracking the codes and frequencies used. The spyers can be unknown to the user, or they can sometimes interfere with the users device and even send them messages. The user receiving them might find out about the hacker, but not know who, where, or how to contact them back by their own will. Some users might eventually find out the identity of the hacker, and the code/language they use, and how to communicate back to them or stop them from intruding.
The human brain works similarly. It’s a receiver and transmitter. When someone is talking to you in the language you speak, the sound waves travel wirelessly to your ears where your brain then interprets them, and translates them into words you understand. If someone is speaking another language, all you hear is sound, and recognize that it’s a person and another language. Some noises and frequencies are beyond your ability to hear. When you think thoughts, your brain emits energy in frequencies undetectable to most people. Some brain scanners these days are somewhat decent at detecting, and translating these emissions. All this is human technology, and everyone knows humans are stupid. Anything that can be conceived…
I can’t make up my mind as to what they are. I haven’t heard the voices since I went on 30mg of abilify, thank God. But yeah, when I heard them I thought they had to be God and angels and demons. Now I’m convinced that I never heard from God while I was awake. Sometimes I think that it is my brain misfiring. Recently I have begun to wonder if it is my dream mind taking over my waking mind. because the medicine didn’t only silence the voices while I am awake, but has mostly silenced the voices I used to hear in my sleep as well. I will still get messages or words in my sleep, but not with nearly the same frequency as I did before. Or maybe that was just while I had developed the illness. My memories are all fuzzy, either from schizophrenia or from being too distant.
I don’t think it is. It is two similar things acting consistently in the same way. But that is not communication, do two ends of a rod communicate with each other to orchestrate their similar movements? Communication does not consist of sharing the same state to begin with. If anything, it is quite the opposite. It typically consist of one person saying this, another that. As soon as there is complete agreement, communication has ceased. You might say communication has succeded, but the point is that the communicating itself does not consist of shared states, the result may, but the communication seems to require the very (possibility of) difference in states. So a case where there necessarily is an agreement between states can hardly be called a case of communication, if anything, it eliminates the possibility of communication.
You are better off ignoring all. You will eventually meet other people who are hearing the voices but go stalk specific strangers to harass them about something private…These can be interesting chat or even helpful, but some are so off their rocker it is self harm to have something to do with it. Some of these are thieves, vandals or ruin people so be forewarned,. However, this is how some people try to pick up a date, by talking to you about something private…This person can be your guide in the community too if you are new to town as he/she knows a lot about everything there. Just a warning, some people get all weirdos trying to bother them, others do not. You will have to judge for yourself & decide from there. Some people who hear the voices part of the time are wife beaters too…You have to judge for yourself. The aggressive types and people who are show real delusional stuff are best avoided.
You might be experiencing ‘thought insertion’ too. If some people sound like they are possessed, it is just a bad joke. It can happen a lot with kids or old folks. They will start to parrot your internal train of thought or talk to you about something they should not know. It is a talk in tongues kind of thing too sometimes… You just need to ignore it as the person has no clue they are saying anything that is upsetting…So sadly, this is called delusional too and resulted in harm to many children because this is denied. If you keep hearing a phrase unrelated to current train of thought, activities or surroundings, your internal voice has been hijacked…Just ignore it. It’s just a bad joke. You can try to chant something else for a while if you want like ‘no thank you’. This is spastic speech too like tourettes at its most extreme…Let separate this from the willfull decision to follow orders from voices I previously discussed which is ‘gang stalking/thought broadcasting’ or cause stalking when done by a group of people (which can be a church tenant to preach stalk specific people on SSDI payments especially.) I do not advise following orders from the voices as it gets schizo in major trouble…These are always crazy forever and voices demand they do worse and worse, more illegal stuff and eventually they get caught. Except for the wealthier men who screw a few ruined business people enough to amass a huge business fortune so they can go after anything they want in the community and cops help in ruining the victim most of time unless woman can leave. These folks are ‘deal with devil’ types and will screw anyone later when voices demand it, as devil wants favors later.
I would not worry about source of the voices unless you had an argument with someone wealthy right before your symptoms started or you met someone making threats/bragging about illegal stuff. If this is the case, if you cut contact with the group and anyone you met through them, you can have some relief from your symptoms sometimes if you do not return any contact attempts and you do not discuss the nervous break and dirty about this group that lead up to your cracking up. It can take 2-3 years to have some relief from the voices, but you need to follow your psych doctor’s orders to be in compliance until psych doctor agrees you could stop meds. NEVER have any contact with this group of people in any confrontational way to tell them off, the paranoid schizo symptoms caused by psychotic strangers bothering you can be greatly reduced…These kind of abusers are frequently a stalker…you can say ‘no thank you’ or ‘we are good’ and never say anything to him or her again. Vandalism or trespassing can happen, cops will ruin you for bothering them to take reports unless everything in house was stolen and you need a police report to file a renters insurance claim. Renters insurance does not cover broken belongings, warranties are only help there. If you experience this, you are better off just keeping a minimum of basic belongings until the problem stops. If you have any problems with trespassers, cops, stigma or discrimination, a move down the road of even 15 minutes can give you better chances to work and be left alone. You can expect to have psychotic strangers bother you every time you move for a while, you are just being shown who hears it and this usually stops after a couple of months if you do not respond to any of them.
Remember, mental care will not discuss this stuff and calls it delusional. This is one problem with mental care policy. If you ever get angry with your mental care providers, you can be locked up in the mental hospital at your own expense for however long the psych dr can justify. Most lose their jobs, some become homeless and dependent upon the mental clinic for housing which can result in commitment…
Okay, as far as source of voices. V2K, voice to skull mind control, technology was developed by the CIA to give a non-traceable means to communicate with its spies. Original claims indicated radar technology developed in 1940s during WWII caused the voices & govt just worked with things from there to develop it. Some say it is technology from Roswell UFO crash…Eventually, technology was offered to wealthy people to ruin people, women who didn’t want any. Mental care claims first report of auditory hallucinations was early 1900 though.
Some churches tell story about rulers in biblical times sitting in corner always in same place talking to self & all requests would just happen – aided by voices talking to people in community who carried out the deeds. Transmission technology from aliens or time-shift God/beings was planted in the wall near the King’s spot to hear the requests the king handed down as orders…Sometimes this still happens with transmission bug planted in holes in dry wall so some people who sat in one spot in room and talked to self could be heard elsewhere, I’m sure computer software handles things now…This story is a version from bible used by evangelicals and pentacostal churches BTW. Their members are the cause stalkers sometimes.
Govt is doing lots of the mental monitoring now…Mr. Snowden, NSA employee who stole govt records to expose the use of this technology on US citizens and left the country to get word out, made some statements to media explaining that every thought of the younger generation is monitored. They never knew a private thought in their lives.
You get used to functioning eventually with psychosis symptoms some of the time. Seroquel is nice sleep aid if needed with few side effects. Hallucinations are just background noise … Hope this helps.
So is zyprexa. Puts me into a dark sleep.
For what we know, yes it is impossible for us to communicate with quantum entanglement.
Details: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem
They liken the problem to 2 people trying to communicate with radios that can only receive.
However, that’s not to say a more complex system, maybe even taking into account other quantum weirdness, can’t create a functional system of communication via QE. The field is still in it’s infancy and there’s a whole lot of stuff to yet be discovered. So civilizations in another universe (or even our future selves) may have a way to use QE as a communication method. Hence my original theory.
So your original theory is that beings utilizing the 5th dimension are then using quantum entanglement to insert their consciousness into another body… and then using that body to talk to or send a messages to someone else?
What people call the 5th dimension is beyond space and time. Quantum mechanics only deals with objects within space-time, since it deals with matter. Everything in the scientifically observable universe (and beyond) is entangled and interconnected. Any form of communication within the realm of matter, space, and time in the current scientifically observable universe could be said to be communication using quantum entanglement. But the ‘5th dimensional’ realm doesn’t consist of matter, or things that can be quantified regularly. The key to communication between the monkey realm and that one is through what I call pure light, and gravity/attraction. Any light ever detected by science has already been slowed down by the medium of space to a slower vibration. There was no space in this universe before the ‘big bang’, and when the inflation of the big bang first occurred, it created space-time while also emitting light beyond space. There wasn’t visible light or light in our detectable range until way later after things cooled down enough for particles to begin to form, and for nuclear fusion to take place etc.
There is no speed of light constant in a vacuum. Any speed of light constants they make up are limited to their detecting, measuring, and experimental capabilities. They can’t make a perfect vacuum, and any light photons used in the experiments have already been in space-time and aren’t pure light. Different frequencies of light are easily proven to travel at different speeds from each other through a medium. But current known science can only detect light trapped in the medium to begin with.
5th dimensional beings access the realm of pure light beyond space-time through consciousness. There are no actual dimensions in existence. It’s just a way of describing different realms of existence.
I don’t understand the posts of people saying they believe our brains use quantum mechanics, or our noses smell smells with quantum mechanics. All matter is composed of smaller bits of matter which would include quantum mechanics. And the smallest bits of physical substance that quantum mechanics will ever be able to reach are composed of non material things beyond quantum mechanics.
By 5th dimensional, I don’t mean another “place” outside of space-time. Just like you stretch a single dimension into two, two into three, and three into four, you can stretch the fourth dimension into a fifth dimension.
Imagine it like a book where our space-time is a single page in the middle of the book. Then there are other single pages to either side of us which are each 4D space-time “slices” or in this case, pages. So some advanced species on one “Page” wants to talk to another species on another “page”, they might have to go through the pages in-between and they would act as buffers.
QE should be able to traverse the fifth dimension as it does the first three (not sure how the 4th plays into this, as that would mean 2 objects can become entangled with each other at different times. Which I don’t think is testable.) A big problem I have is, if QE traverses dimensions without needing anything to do with the space between the 2 entangled objects, then jumping “pages” in the 5th dimension shouldn’t be a problem; no buffer would be needed.
Anyway, as I said, theory.
Also, to add. I feel it explains so many different things other than voices too. Shadow people are actual people they see while entangled that we see because their senses fuse with ours, confused thoughts would be explained by their thoughts overwriting parts of our thoughts. Even thought blocking, you lose your thoughts because they actually were erased to make room. Paranoia, feeling like we’re being violated because in the deepest sense we are. Negatives probably happen because they system is just so overworked.
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“Manifestations of our own mind” well stated!
thinking the voices are real is a step backwards in recovery. I use to listen to them 8, 9 10 hours a day and think they were real, either spirits, or spies/agents or something. They are NOT real and are just another coping mechanism for the brain; it’s an illness like any other. My dad has it, my aunt has it, my uncle has it, so (very unfortunately) I got it. The voices are not real.
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I understand that concept of dimensions too. I wasn’t thinking and just assumed you were going by the 3d space with all spacial directions etc. and any shapes or angles or perspectives that can exist in that space. While the 4th being were most people are with higher levels of intelligence and consciousness than other earth creatures, and utilizing the concepts of time and math as well. And the 5th being outside of time, where time and distance or measuring things with math don’t matter (literally). Quantum mechanics is stuck in the realm with time and measurements of size and distance. I said in one of my posts that everything in the current observable universe by science is in fact interconnected. Nothing is completely independent from anything/everything else. These levels of connection through the existence of… existence are infinite though whereas quantum physics according to definition will inevitably hit a dead end. So I agree with your theory. but just don’t relate or agree with it being through quantum entanglement. But then again I don’t like the whole dimensions concept for communicating anything passed video games, or when saying the dimension of an object is X length, and Y height, and Z length. No matter how I’ve looked at it, there are either infinite dimensions, or there is one dimension with infinite realms and possibilities within it.
One can say that thinking they are real is a step back, while another can say that thinking they aren’t real is a step back. Neither one is making much progress being that simple about it. You said you listened to the voices for hours a day. Do you listen to cockroaches for hours a day? Probably not, but do you consider cockroaches to be real? Why give too much attention to the voices you hear if they aren’t being useful? If the voices are just a manifestation of the mind, and the voices aren’t real, then does that make the mind not real, and thus making your opinion and anything the voice in your head fake?
Edit: It IS all just a manifestation of the mind though. Just like everything.
Listen to cockroaches hours a day? Wow you are sick. I refuse to make myself worse acknowledging posts that make no sense.
I know my voices are real sometimes but i wish they weren’t, some voices are kind though others are menacing
Hello Joel
they are masters of thoughts about thoughts they can see a thought just as you are creating it. They see triggers of thoughts also this I commend them for as they are very good at it. I like my voices and find their thoughts to be entertaining at times as we go back and forth in conversations.
Powessy
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That is wonderful news.