Can an alcoholic drink in moderation. or self medicate with alcohol?

I am bordline alcoholic.

Seems like beer makes so many poeple happy, and helps thier symptoms.

Could a alcoholic drink only in moderation. and slow down if it is getting excessive?

One beer would give me a buzz now and after it wore off that would be the only thing in life I want to experience again.

Does anyone beleive alcoholism is like schizophrenia and someone could have a gene or body that has alchoholism like one has schizophrenia?

The Big Book says an alcoholic cannot control his drinking. He canā€™t just stop at one or two, he has to get drunk every time he drinks. Hence the saying Iā€™ve heard in recovery in AA a million times: " One drink (hit, bump, etc.) is too much and a thousand is never enough". Thereā€™s line thatā€™s crossed between being a heavy drinker and being an alcoholic.

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I just want a buzz, I see my nieghbor drink everyday from around 2pm somtimes until 11-12pm somtimes.

He doesnt get drunk so he doesnt think he is an alcoholic.

He even gets in his car and goes to the store to pick things up right after he had a beer.

If you need alchohol daily but arent drunk what is going on?

Hey Dude1, itā€™s me, Greykitten again! Please stay away from the alcohol. It can make you hallucinate, have delusions, and have foggy thinking and being. I quit alcohol COLD TURKEY several years after graduating from college. It pissed my then boyfriend off. Our 'relationship" seemed to be conducted in the local dive bar. My mother kept calling me an alcoholic since I started drinking at age 19. I would drink a six pack or more of Dark Heinken every night in my college dorm room. It was my very favorite. For my twentieth b-day, a ā€œwant-to-be boyfriendā€ baked me a chocolate cake and gave me a six-pack. I now know that I was self-medicating. It helped me sleep for one thing and stifled the pain for another. I still have trouble sleeping. Here, I am at 315am edt posting this after about only two or three hours of sleep. When I quit that night, I had all these terrible symptoms. My body literally shook. My heart pounded hard and loudly. I felt very weird. I could not sleep. I was living with my late sister then and she was not home that night. I eventually put some blankets on the floor of her bedroom and tried to sleep there. I will never forget that night and I will never drink again! After all that drinking, now that I look back on that, it may have been some sort of ā€œallergic reaction!ā€ In reality I know and believe that it was Spirit giving me a message that I have luckily heeded. Most meds I have taken tell you donā€™t drink alcohol while you are taking them I hope I have helped you and not preached. I donā€™t like preaching, Good luck, Dude1. You are a very good person!

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Iā€™m not an expert on alcoholism but I think an alcoholic is psychologically AND physically addicted to alcohol. Both conditions are present. Maybe (and this is just a guess) your neigbor is psychologically addicted only which does not make him an alcoholic. In other words, maybe it is just a habit for him and heā€™s not necessarily addicted.

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Thanks I am trying my best.

I also have having to worry about a DUI when driving after I had some alcohol.

I sorta am still craving the buzz.

And my mother shuns alcohol and would never allow it in the house.

I have to hide it from my parents especially my mother.

I also came down with serious vertigo when I was drinking and it lasted for about two weeks. I fear getting vertigo again if I drink. My vertigo has been going away more each year since I stopped drinking.

My medication does say dont drink alcohol while taking, and alcohol my intensify the drowsiness.

Give AA a try, youā€™ve got nothing to lose. They might help.

No , I am an alcoholic and have tried to drink just one beer but I always lost my will power and reasoning almost immediately after and was off to the store to get another. I had to wait though for it to ware off so that I could driveā€¦ which made it a little easier to drink less by just buying one at a time. That didnā€™t work, because I was uncommitted to say no never a drop for any reason ever, forever more, period. Thatā€™s because I had some old druggies for friends that told me ā€œnever to say neverā€ but Hey! they are in jail now. They are the same ones that told me to say never to go straight only go forward. They might go forward to hell if there not more careful.

Yeah I donā€™t think alcoholics have the capacity to moderate.

I donā€™t know if itā€™s genetic but from my understanding itā€™s a brain structure thing. Dopamenergic cycle. That is what leads to addiction. When you need something to trigger the dopamine release just to feel normal, and youā€™ll do anything to feel normal/good. Thatā€™s when addiction comes into play.

I donā€™t really have trouble moderating alcohol at this point. Coffee always sounds like a good idea. Smoking first and last thing in the day and at most possible moments in between.

If it werenā€™t for coffee and tobacco I might have nothing holding me back from developing alcoholism.

My mind is slowly getting back to what it used to be. Thought wise that is. Such a slow process after a psychotic break. Basically I do what I do to kill time and make the ride a little less monotonous.

They have drug/alcohol evaluations at some places. They could probably answer your questions. Maybe there is a questionnaire on the web somewhere for free.

Really though who doesnā€™t want to keep drinking once they start?

Itā€™s important to accept that and cut yourself off.

When I drink itā€™s either a 6 pack or 2. Depending on how much time I have. My buddies are all pretty generous with beer sometimes itā€™s a little more or a little less.

Hate liquor though. Thatā€™s where bad alcoholism is.

Iā€™m an alkie. I canā€™t drink in moderation. The one time I tried, the only thing I was using in moderation was my common sense. Didnā€™t end well. This is speaking only for myself, of course.

If your meds say ā€˜donā€™t mix with boozeā€™, there is probably a good reason for that. If you are unable to abstain from drinking, there is probably a reason for that too and you may want to seek help for it. AA has helped many (including me). If that makes you uncomfortable, talk to your doctor about getting help.

Know what else really helps with symptoms?? Exercise. Cheap, wonā€™t get you arrested, and works with your meds. Suggest trying that first.

Good luck.

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I used to drink like an alkie but now I drink a little, and I mean a little. I have two drinks on weekend nights socially.

I used to drink as self medication, then got on real medication.

I hated being dependent on alcohol. It made my life even worse at the time, but I thought it was the only thing keeping me alive. I do think that if meds didnā€™t exist, I would still be drinking heavily every night. I mean it was bad, I was drunk all of the time, my parents didnā€™t even bother me about it, they knew I was in pain and would crack and take medication.

Real alcoholism is pretty extreme, it blows my mind. I used to think I was an alcoholic, but apparently I am not. Last night I had two drinks with my girlfriend. It was quite normal. I didnā€™t want to drink everything in sight and I behaved normally, I just felt a bit more relaxed. Alcoholics simply cannot drink two or three drinks and then stop.

I donā€™t think you can the whole vibe is its an addiction , that is compelling. Once you try to control an addiction , it does not take too lightly to it. The only way for most people is cold turkey.

i drink 3 times a week, 10 pints in each session, i enjoy it

I love excersizing.

If I do it everyday as hard as I could I start to get a little burnt out, but my muscles get really toned.

If I did not have anything at all to do I could focus on my diet and excersize.

I have high cholestoral, triglycerides and my sugar in my bood is starting to get high, and I am overwieght.

[quote=ā€œmortimermouse, post:11, topic:22071ā€]
Alcoholics simply cannot drink two or three drinks and then stop.
[/quote] Yeah I guess alot of poeple that drink alcohol should be thankful they dont become alcoholics and destroy thier lives and others.

Poeple on this forum take schizophrenia seriously and I am trying to take alcoholism seriously also.

I think alcoholics are in the same boat with schizophrenics it is genetic or somthing like schizophrenia is.

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Youā€™re right, it is genetic.

Yeah it is no fun like schizophrenia is no fun.

Im schizophrenic, have a mood disorder and im an alcoholic. I have been trying to quit drinking for years. I think the sz and mood really exasperates my drinking problem. I am ready to quit again. Ive tried treatment, AA and therapy. I am just about to call my dr. to increase invega and maybe other meds. Im reading this site and it helps me feel connected. I need social interaction but i dont pull that off too well.
Nice getting to know you all abit. Any suggestions?

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