Brain Energy. A newish way of looking at mental illness

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So I’ve read this book. My shrink got me onto it because with a pretty radical for me diet I’ve lost like 7 kgs and I’m doing really well mentally on lowest doses of meds for ages.

It’s really pretty interesting and worth a read. It is an expensive book but authors idea is that the underlying thing about all mental illness is issues with mitochondria and it’s function in cells of the body. They explain symptoms as extensions of that and this guy is kinda known as the keto guy as he got people well and got results getting people onto the keto diet.

I’m certainly not saying get off the meds but we all know there’s issues there but you can still do really simple things to address mental illness whilst on meds and it really doesn’t cost you anything. Addressing your diet and getting rid of things like drugs and alcohol can make big differences to treatment outcomes and we kinda know that anyways. Add regular exercise to that and I can attest to the improvements in function that this can achieve.

Honestly. I’m only just getting on top of all this but I’m kinda excited by how much weight I can continue to keep shifting and I’m curious about others and what they think of this approach. I think there’s something profound with this approach and whilst not saying it’s the total answer the author certainly explains how it all could be related to simple cellular and metabolic process’.

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I’ve heard about that guy, I tried keto for a month and it did nothing for my symptoms, but looks like it works for some.

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Yeah I’m not sure if it’s a treat all panacea by a mile but there’s something worthwhile about their approach. I’ve just really radically simplified my diet and I’m losing 1kg a week. I’ve done the exercise all year so difference has been diet and results have been amazing. So last couple of months on diet I’ve been losing where before I actually gained weight with more exercise.

I think there’s something with this guys approach and he highlights a couple of case studies with different approaches but diet and exercise seem the big key…it’s not new but it’s a different way of understanding the underlying process and therefore the reasons why this works. ie increasing mitochondrial function in the cells.

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Eating healthy improves my mood so I think it can help with depression not sure about psychosis.

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I believe in eating healthy and exercising as part of a holistic approach.

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Yeah it’s the way which is what this guy is describing. It’s not your Nootropic stack that helps unless it’s helping mitochondria but really doing the diet right and exercising leads to way better outcomes and I think that it’s achievable for most people here.

There’s other metabolic process’ involved too like insulin and diabetes but it comes back to the same underlying issue. It’s the result of a metabolic process so addressing that is probably more than half the battle.

Yeah there’s diets but it may be that specific diets address the problem better than others. I’m not going keto and no idea what it involves but I’m getting good gains simply with some really disciplined eating. There really seems to be something here and it’s worth investigating.

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Thats great man. Its difficult to get started but once it starts becoming habitual it must make you feel good. Im not really eating well or exercising at the moment but i know how real the benefits can be. Just in a bit of a rut at the moment. Not even mental health wise, more real life circumstance caused.

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As much as I am fan of keto, it is not silver bullet.

Like veganism this diet is case of extreme optimization. Which on surface can seem like is giving you lot of upside but can leave you exposed to severe downside.

Keto seems to help in treatment resistant schizophrenia. Auto immune disorders. Severe obesity. Lot of other conditions.

Great thing for now seems it helps in all symptoms of schizophrenia for whom the diet works. Positives, negatives and cognitive deficits.

It is not cure. Similar to APs in way that getting out of metabolic ketosis can/might make symptoms to return.

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walking every day, avoiding all sugar, caffeine, drugs, tobacco. meditating, fasting, working on energy yes those are keys to your future.

I need to get healthy again.

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I read the article @firemonkey posted and am now very skeptical. I’m just not sure what to think. It seems too easy. Too idealistic.

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Yeah as I said I don’t think it’s a panacea for everyone but there’s definitely something to this approach. The simple thing is that cleaning up your diet and adding exercise can make a big difference!

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I do fasting from time to time, but get’s hard on quiting sugar. How do you do it since sugar can be found in just about most of the foods?

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Yeah a good summary of the problems with his book. Still. It’s an interesting approach and I think the link to diet and exercise could be a bigger boon than we give credit for. Not saying it will be a one suits all blanket that works with everyone but just from personal experience…it works if you do it right.

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I saw an interview with him and he himself says that you could see worsening of symptoms for 3 months then massive improvement after that but you have to stay strict with it or it doesn’t work at all

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You have to get into and stay in metabolic ketosis state. For therapeutic effects.

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Ok, I see. That actually makes me want to try it again and give it longer time. 3 months is a long time though, I wonder if I have the discipline for that.

I did a keto diet for 5 months. Lost a lot of weight but it did nothing for my voices.

After the diet I gained the weight all back on.

Moreover, I didn’t feel well and very weak during the diet. Couldn’t do anything but rest.

I’m never doing a keto diet again,

To me this is just one of those too good to be true stories.

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Is it possible you could find the interview where he says that? No worries if not.

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Here’s an interview of Dr.Palmer.

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