Low carbs combined with diabetes meds have a way of making me sick as a dog.
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Yes, it is. It can be used to ignore basically any argument and hold on to the beliefs you like better.
Try getting some neutral and balanced information on this, and keep your emotions out of the picture. Why would you be looking at individual studies? You’re not a nutritionist.
Look at this, for example. Becoming a vegetarian - Harvard Health
Also, it’s just diet. Who cares if you reduce the risk of some diseases a little by avoiding animal products? Life isn’t a competition for who lives the longest. Do you and enjoy it instead.
Are you?
The truth is that I don’t care about the studies, I’ve already lived 11 years longer than the cardiologists said I would and I intend to enjoy the years I have left by eating things I like, not nibbling on limp kale.
I’ve also lived long enough to know that studies tend to follow trends and get tossed out as trends change. A lot of what passes for peer reviewed science … isn’t.
We’re going to have to agree to disagree here as it’s a certainty neither of us will move the other’s needle given the differences in our inclinations and politics.
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I was diagnosed about 2 months ago with a A1c of 6.5 which is technically diabetes. I learned from some ladies who had it to eat snacks throughout the day to keep from getting too weak. The doctor recommended wheat thins, trisquits, cheese, whole wheat, or whole grain bread, suggested peanut butter and celery (although low sugar peanut butter is hard to find), nuts, grapes, citrus fruits, fish, meat (limit the beef), sugar free flavored sodas, or water, and just plain water. I’ve lost some weight but have a long way to go to be anywhere near where one could consider healthy. I also run into opposition at this group home as some of the staff think I eat too often. But seriously I get weak when I go too long without food these days. It’s a scary disease and one of my Uncles died from it. I do take metforim for it which probably helped as much as anything in the weight loss. I’m going to see the doctor again soon.
I think you’re overestimating my inclinations and political views here, which is partly what I wanted to say. The information I’m sharing is based only on doing informal learning on my own because of an underlying interest. I’m not a vegetarian, and I don’t personally follow this suggestion. I consume a lot of animal products. I’d like it if what I’m saying turns out not to be true. But as far as nutritional science goes, this is not a very controversial position.
We can definitely agree, though, that enjoying life is more important that simply following some assumed optimally healthy diet.
There are nutrients that humans need that only come from meat, certain vitamins, iron, etc. In this day and age, eating a plant based diet is more feasible due to our ability to blend plant products together and take supplements. I’m not convinced that it’s the meat itself, but rather how it’s prepared, that presents a problem. Also, there’s probably no “one size fits all” diet. I’m anemic, and when I don’t get enough protein, I feel sick and exhausted, but then my little brother feels that way when he eats my normal amount of meat. I simply can’t get enough protein from just plant based foods. I’ve tried. I think that part of our problem is that we assume that there’s one perfect diet, and currently, that doesn’t seem to be the case.
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